Sudan president pardons British teacher

marmalade6 · #11 (**permalink**) 12-04-2007, 06:35 PM

ITSPLAYED,

I think muslims see and hear what they want, more so than any other religion. Seems very defensive. Defensive behavior usually is caused by knowledge that one's behavior is wrong, but muslims seem to unite and exault in their anger like it's the one way the world will notice them.

Islam certainly doesn't encourage individualism does it, or self-conscious thought.

Why all this angst now and not say in the 1960s?

How would a denouncement of strict interpretation ever take place. What conditions?

36shadow · #12 (**permalink**) 12-04-2007, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by marmalade6

ITSPLAYED,

I think muslims see and hear what they want, more so than any other religion. Seems very defensive. Defensive behavior usually is caused by knowledge that one's behavior is wrong, but muslims seem to unite and exault in their anger like it's the one way the world will notice them.

Islam certainly doesn't encourage individualism does it, or self-conscious thought.

Why all this angst now and not say in the 1960s?

How would a denouncement of strict interpretation ever take place. What conditions?

Why is it our duty to dictate moral,religion and govt. of other nations? Why do we care so much about over there when there is so much here we can focus on and fix.

36shadow · #13 (**permalink**) 12-04-2007, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by marmalade6

ITSPLAYED,

I think muslims see and hear what they want, more so than any other religion. Seems very defensive. Defensive behavior usually is caused by knowledge that one's behavior is wrong, but muslims seem to unite and exault in their anger like it's the one way the world will notice them.

Islam certainly doesn't encourage individualism does it, or self-conscious thought.

Why all this angst now and not say in the 1960s?

How would a denouncement of strict interpretation ever take place. What conditions?

That is wrong I get defensive when someone attacks me and I beat the shit out of them and the cops are up my ass. In this screwed up corrupt non moral society we have created many are defensive you have to or you will be walked over and shit on. Nice when liberalism is to liberal and tears down the walls of civic responsability.

noneof yourbusiness · #14 (**permalink**) 12-05-2007, 01:47 AM

I am really surpissed by this. Amazing. Thers hope for everybody even these assholes.

countryslim · #15 (**permalink**) 12-05-2007, 09:46 AM

Being that there are plenty nutty Muslims in Britain, she did right by her own safety at home to say what she said..

Heckler · #16 (**permalink**) 12-05-2007, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 36shadow

Why is it our duty to dictate moral,religion and govt. of other nations? Why do we care so much about over there when there is so much here we can focus on and fix.

It is NOT our duty, or our business, really....

Great post Shadow....

marmalade6 · #17 (**permalink**) 12-05-2007, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 36shadow

That is wrong I get defensive when someone attacks me and I beat the shit out of them and the cops are up my ass. In this screwed up corrupt non moral society we have created many are defensive you have to or you will be walked over and shit on. Nice when liberalism is to liberal and tears down the walls of civic responsability.

It was only an odservation about the anger displayed against the school teacher.

I don't think we have any business invading any autonomous nation, who is not agressing against us, to gain access to its natural resources or to "spread democracy". I agree we aren't doing well manageing resources or democracy here at home. But, I think it's in our self-interest to attemp to understand the hatred the muslim's feel, to at least put into focus their motives thus reducing the scariness of the anger. Understanding may appear silly or usless, but it really does diminish some pretty ugly situations.

36shadow · #18 (**permalink**) 12-05-2007, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by marmalade6

It was only an odservation about the anger displayed against the school teacher.

I don't think we have any business invading any autonomous nation, who is not agressing against us, to gain access to its natural resources or to "spread democracy". I agree we aren't doing well manageing resources or democracy here at home. But, I think it's in our self-interest to attemp to understand the hatred the muslim's feel, to at least put into focus their motives thus reducing the scariness of the anger. Understanding may appear silly or usless, but it really does diminish some pretty ugly situations.

Any nation that does not strive to understand nation that is or could be a threat is leading itself down a path of destruction. I agree we should not be the police of the world nor do we have the right. But there is one over riding fact, if we do not take part in our supply of energy no matter where it be we will pearish and many more will die then have in the last 5 , 6 years. It is not the ideal situtation but our govt. has put us in such a situtation by making us dependant on foreign oil. We as a nation of consumers and individualist have contributed to that sucess so to deny our responsability in it inevetabilily of what is upon us is self imposed blindness.