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Old 11-30-2007, 04:27 PM
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The legal age of adult in most states is 18/19. But, then we have to consider:
Age of consent
Age of criminal responsibility
Emancipation of minors
Legal drinking age
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If the child is only 14 and has decided his fate, would have chosen it without his religious upbringing? Most kids are optomistics. It's the way he was raised, is it right? No, not in my personal opinion. My dad was optomistic he was going to beat his cancer until the day he died. So, why did the child give up? Again, probably his upbringing.
Being an optimist seems beside the point. I don't think that that should have been a decision he should have been given to make, regardless of religion or faith.
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Old 11-30-2007, 04:34 PM
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Well, I'm insulted by the majority of the world killing each other in the name of their personal superstition.....

You are right, I could have left that out....
14 is way too young to make a decision of that magnitude. The line has to be drawn somewhere.

In court, the judge said, even with transfusions and other treatment, the boy's doctors gave him about a 70% chance of surviving the next 5 years.
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Old 11-30-2007, 04:53 PM
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Did anyone look at this closer than the surface. Did you ever wonder why the aunt had him? Did you ever consider that he was with the aunt because he wanted to be a JW so he could have the choice with out you I or the govt. telling him what he had to do like suffer through what is more often then not a painful miserable terminal illness. So they told him he had to become a JW to have his wishes upheld. No instead we have a problem in this country everyone wants to tell everyone else what they should or should not do or should or should not allow. Yet they are the first to tell someone to stay the hell out of there buisness. This was no little event and I dare say ANYONE involved took it lightly especialy the boy. If this was my daughter I would fight with everything I had but then when I stop for a min and think past myself. I wonder what would I do if she touched me with her hand turned my face, turned it and looked me in the eye and said. Dad I love you but this is what I believe I want it is just my time don't be sad. Helllllllll just thinking about it is hard but it I would have to understand. Expect nothing more than your willing to give I preach it all the time. It is always easier to take and judge rather than give and be judged. When we grew up in the country it was like an unwritten rule you keep your nose out of others buisness it was ok to have an opinion but don't push it on others. Unless something like abuse was going on then you better damn sure be right. Now it is a leap before you look attitude, I don't see anywhere in the constitution that it give one the right to run another private citazens life. If I were this boy I would hope that everyone would not spend there time quaraling over my decision like a pack of wolves over a scrap of meat. I would hope they would spend the time remembering the posative I brought to there life in my brief but rather meaningful time on this earth and cherish it.
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Old 11-30-2007, 05:03 PM
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14 is way too young to make a decision of that magnitude. The line has to be drawn somewhere.

In court, the judge said, even with transfusions and other treatment, the boy's doctors gave him about a 70% chance of surviving the next 5 years.
I respect your opinion and exercising it in your own life is your choice. But you and those like you are a big problem in this country you do what ever you can to make sure your opinion becomes law for everyone. It would be no different if they started passing laws based on Muslim beliefs. That would mean you are told what or what you can not wear in public etc etc and as minor as that is if you think it will stop there it gets much worse just look at the middle east. But that is what happens when you get in the buisness of running other peoples personal lives and beliefs. You act as if this was an act of murder or suicide.
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Old 11-30-2007, 05:05 PM
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14 is way too young to make a decision of that magnitude. The line has to be drawn somewhere.

In court, the judge said, even with transfusions and other treatment, the boy's doctors gave him about a 70% chance of surviving the next 5 years.
I'm guessing the parents would have made the same call on that, maybe not, just a guess....

I agree, at 14 one doesn't have an adult sense of the permanency behind the decision.....

FYI, I was raised in a Christian Science household...they have similar beliefs, but more extreme....Had I been in that position at that age, the results likely would have been the same for me.....

I left the faith (all faith) as a teenager....but until I was 18 I didn't get to make my own choices......
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I respect your opinion and exercising it in your own life is your choice. But you and those like you are a big problem in this country you do what ever you can to make sure your opinion becomes law for everyone. It would be no different if they started passing laws based on Muslim beliefs. That would mean you are told what or what you can not wear in public etc etc and as minor as that is if you think it will stop there it gets much worse just look at the middle east. But that is what happens when you get in the buisness of running other peoples personal lives and beliefs. You act as if this was an act of murder or suicide.
We're talking about a 14 year old here, a minor, you're applying adult standards in attempting to further your argument. His "decision" was nothing more than his aunt, and her beliefs, speaking through him.
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Old 11-30-2007, 08:50 PM
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We're talking about a 14 year old here, a minor, you're applying adult standards in attempting to further your argument. His "decision" was nothing more than his aunt, and her beliefs, speaking through him.
This is possable but to say it is a fact is bullshit as much as someone stating that it was not her. The only one that knows is the boy and the aunt. And those that look at a 14 year old as not knowing or imature well less than 100 years ago they what we considered kids now were raising families and running buisneses and farms and ranches. I can take you to several farms and ranches today and show you kids that have a better head on their shoulders then most adults you find in the city and suburbs. See they are taught responsability at a young age just like in the old days and on a farm and ranch you learn about life and death at a young age because you have to. They are dangerous places to be if your a kid and you don't pay attention. So who is to say what kind of home life this boy had who is to realy know if he was or was not aware. Teenagers are old enough to make other life decisions these days like birth control etc. but not the ultimate decision that this child did based on what he believed. Don't kid yourself even at the age of ten I hated going to church I believed in certain things we were taught but was not brainwashed by it hell I questioned more than I believed. Kids don't know it all that is why we are there to teach and guide but they know a hell of a lot more then most give them credit for and at the very least they understand.
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So what does this have to do with what we are talking about. The husband in that case should have sued the parents for court and lawyer fees. He had the legal right to make the decision and should not have been drug into court in what must have been a terrible time for him. The fact that we allow this crap to go on just shows how our judicial system has gone to shit.
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Yeah, your point?
My point is, they were religious people and wanted to keep their daughter alive, although there was no hope. Yet a 14 year old boy had hope but religion killed him.
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