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11-29-2007, 11:46 PM
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See no one is asking you to do so but there are those like this boy and I the same that it is not giving up. Why is it deemed so crazy these days that one can accept death instead of fight it. Ya if I get realy sick I go to the doctor but if I ever get cancer realy bad guess what I will not fight it nor suffer through mans money making torture. I've seen to many go through it and am doing so again right now with my wifes grandfather. Hell the man just stays sick all he does is eat sleep and shit that is not life it is existance to make those around him happy. We have become so greedy that we are even so in death. hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Agreed... We as Spirit were before we were born into flesh... This life is not the total sum of our existance... It is only a bump in the road.
Why let others Make us Cling to less than the chance that they have..
Its easy to Judge when you aren't personaly held accountable..
Perhaps this thread is only meant to bash Religion?
The Young Man is only a scapegoat for this Singular purpose of degrading a Faith that many do not believe..
I have NO tattoes...do not mark my skin.. do not do needles at all.. I do not take another Mans Wife, nor will I lie Intentionally, nor kick my Dog, nor do I abuse my Authority as a Healthy Man..
I HAVE my Own RULES.......
Fourteen is old enough to establish whether or not to have Faith and to know the outcome of a Deadly diesease..
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11-29-2007, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by cat's meow
Are you living in 1890?
This is not a freak show and I am not talking about a common cold either. I have been in the room with the kids who get saved and they go on to live long lives. So your answer is to just give up when your life can be saved?
You get one life here on earth, that is it...and you fight hard for it.
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INGORE THAT YA FAGGOTTY "ACTING" CUNT 
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11-30-2007, 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by countryslim
Agreed... We as Spirit were before we were born into flesh... This life is not the total sum of our existance... It is only a bump in the road.
Why let others Make us Cling to less than the chance that they have..
Its easy to Judge when you aren't personaly held accountable..
Perhaps this thread is only meant to bash Religion?
The Young Man is only a scapegoat for this Singular purpose of degrading a Faith that many do not believe..
I have NO tattoes...do not mark my skin.. do not do needles at all.. I do not take another Mans Wife, nor will I lie Intentionally, nor kick my Dog, nor do I abuse my Authority as a Healthy Man..
I HAVE my Own RULES.......
Fourteen is old enough to establish whether or not to have Faith and to know the outcome of a Deadly diesease..
I respect that..
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It is not mine to say weather he should or should not I did not know him only his parents can speak to weather it was his decision or not. I can say that faced with the reality of the situation he did not take it lightly I just don't see that and I respect the decision he makes. I have a few tattoos but they are murals not tags to me they are empowering and part of my spiritual belief they are a story of my life.
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11-30-2007, 05:50 AM
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Why stop at medical treatment? Since hunger itself is an affliction....why bother eating in order to stay alive? Just let nature take it's course.....what a great code to live or should I say, die by.......idiots!  |
11-30-2007, 10:00 AM
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Why stop at medical treatment? Since hunger itself is an affliction....why bother eating in order to stay alive? Just let nature take it's course.....what a great code to live or should I say, die by.......idiots! |
If you are so blind not to see the difference between a terminal illness and hunger then you might rethink who the idiot is. But then the fact you jump to such dumbass conclusion tells me you don't think.
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11-30-2007, 10:38 AM
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Nothing, except the fact, it was HIS CHOICE matters. Now I realize there is a group of fools, in this country, who want to remove our right to make choices, but that has not, and will not happen. At least not while we are a FREE nation.
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11-30-2007, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Teak
Nothing, except the fact, it was HIS CHOICE matters. Now I realize there is a group of fools, in this country, who want to remove our right to make choices, but that has not, and will not happen. At least not while we are a FREE nation.
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I agree with you 100 percent on this. It was his choice to accept the risk of not having the transfusion. Personally, I disagree with not having it but I have no choice but to accept his decision. His life belongs to him, not to anyone else and I am always tickled at those who claim to believe in freedom but continually try to tell the rest of us how to live.
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11-30-2007, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45
Teak
I agree with you 100 percent on this. It was his choice to accept the risk of not having the transfusion. Personally, I disagree with not having it but I have no choice but to accept his decision. His life belongs to him, not to anyone else and I am always tickled at those who claim to believe in freedom but continually try to tell the rest of us how to live.
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End of story realy. People have a right to die with dignity and not live the rest of there lives with needles and medication being pumped into them day in and day out.
I would have fought it to the end, myself. I sincerely understand someone's right to decide to give up. When faced with invasive medical treatments and long drawn out and emotionaly draining situations like these.
I had a Uncle decide the same thing. Have surgery and live another 5-10 years with the assistance of a Nurse for 24/7. Or make peace with God and Family and live the remainder of your life with dignity.
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11-30-2007, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by satv365
End of story realy. People have a right to die with dignity and not live the rest of there lives with needles and medication being pumped into them day in and day out.
I would have fought it to the end, myself. I sincerely understand someone's right to decide to give up. When faced with invasive medical treatments and long drawn out and emotionaly draining situations like these.
I had a Uncle decide the same thing. Have surgery and live another 5-10 years with the assistance of a Nurse for 24/7. Or make peace with God and Family and live the remainder of your life with dignity.
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Actually, this was not an issue of invasive medical treatments etc etc. Its the fact the Jehovah Witnesses don't believe in blood transfusions from a religious point of view. One blood transfusion would probably have saved his life and never again would he have been bothered.
It was still his choice, no matter how stupid or misguided it might have been
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11-30-2007, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45
Actually, this was not an issue of invasive medical treatments etc etc. Its the fact the Jehovah Witnesses don't believe in blood transfusions from a religious point of view. One blood transfusion would probably have saved his life and never again would he have been bothered.
It was still his choice, no matter how stupid or misguided it might have been
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Yes, this is how I feel as well....everyone has a right to live or die as they see fit, provided they hurt no one but themself.....
Religion sucks...it's just superstition....
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