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Old 10-02-2007, 10:21 AM
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Sav; I agree.
EF; you have twins, how do you have time to focus to listen to anything?
OB, my intention was to provoke comments. As for the time and focus, the swings provide more of each.
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Old 10-02-2007, 11:28 AM
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I have a five year old son and this is the approach I've taken with religion. I personally, if forced to choose a religion it would probably be Buddhism, but for now agnostic is my description of choice.

What I've done when questions are asked, I don't shy away from or tell him my own personal beliefs, rather yet I have exposed him to all religions that he has asked about. My parents have don't the Baptist thing, I have a friend Amy that has done the Catholic thing (which of all the religions he the most questions but that follows because they have the best props!), when I was in Detroit I was invited into the home of (now this is before the accident) the sales rep Karen with whom I was working. With her being a Muslim I asked if my son and I could join them so we went to mosque and we both found it fascinating that certain times of the day in parts of the city a siren would go off and people would stop to pray. He hadn't seen anything like that before because it was so organized outside of the one day rituals he had seen with Sunday morning Christianity. There is actually a large Buddhist temple a few hours north of here which we both enjoyed and my Jewish friend Stevo (while visiting) took us to his synagogue up near Chicago.

After all of this he just wants to play Xbox 360 (so do I MADDEN 08 RULES), at that I have told him he can believe what ever he wants and I'll support it. So far he has really said too much about it... if he does go it usually with grandma and I feel that is more grandma wanting to him rather than him wanting to go to church. She knows I will not allow it to be forced onto him like which it was with me in my childhood. It's his choice but I wanted him to know that there are other faiths outside of Christianity and if he didn't want to believe in any of them, then that was ok too.

That is my Dr. Spock moment for the day...
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Old 10-02-2007, 11:39 AM
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The last "gasp" for air as the seculars of this country are going down for the last time, drowning in their own sea of ideology. To even suggest that one could get a nation whose makeup is approximately 80% of the population to "boycott" a product whose conception was due to the fact of having the "demography" of buyers to meet the demand is simply "grasping" at air. Good luck, with that boycott thingy, you will need it. Its much like the ones that are behind in the ratings of media entertainment suggesting to "boycott" fox because they lead in the popularity polls....I am sure that the sponsors of the Fox networks are going stop advertising on the "most" popular time slots that allows a 30 second time slot to reach more than 10 such slots would reach on the other networks....the "math" just does not add up. BD

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Old 10-02-2007, 11:47 AM
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The last "gasp" for air as the seculars of this country are going down for the last time, drowning in their own sea of ideology. To even suggest that one could get a nation whose makeup is approximately 80% of the population to "boycott" a product whose conception was due to the fact of having the "demography" of buyers to meet the demand is simply "grasping" at air. Good luck, with that boycott thingy, you will need it. Its much like the ones that are behind in the ratings of media entertainment suggesting to "boycott" fox because they lead in the popularity polls....I am sure that the sponsors of the Fox networks are going stop advertising on the "most" popular time slots that allows a 30 second time slot to reach more than 10 such slots would reach on the other networks....the "math" just does not add up. BD
I actually I was watching the news last night and since 91' the number of people who say they have NO religion i.e. the dreaded secularists has doubled to 20%. People are waking up to your bullshit and superstitions.
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Old 10-02-2007, 11:51 AM
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JJJJJJJJJJJJeeeeessssssus Chhhhhhriiiiisssssst on a cruch what the hell is wrong with this country. It's a fucking song does it hurt the child does it cause them to violence NOOOOOO. Main stream religion in this country in large is not bad and serves to teach morals like respect for your parents,elders,and to be an altogether decent person. Ya I know there are radical shit head religous freaks out there but what 5% of the whole your always going to have that religious or not. My question is why are so many in this country trying to break down all religion in this country? Why because you think you have the fucking right too well guess what those basic religious principles are the very damn thing that gives you the right to run off at the mouth kind of like biting the hand that feeds you. Look at all the good beating down religion entierly has done for this country. First tv starting with cartoons cheep japanese martial arts crap with not much depth arogant disrepectful kids talking back to there parents and others. When all the older ones like Scooby Doo , Tom and Jerry , Road Runner etc. etc. were well drawn funny entertaining and teach morals instiling values in your kids. Other shows the same way these days it's all about the ratings no matter the content and most of it is lieing, cheating , stealing on and on and on and parents watch it and let there kids watch it like it is no big deal. All the time we have turned to a society that cares only about geting our own and fuck the other guy and if anyone says anything I'll tell them where to go. Ya great alternative hell kids are having sex and talking about it with there friends at 8,9,10 years old don't tell me that shit was going on 50 years or even 40 years ago you may have had isolated rare cases but not even close to what goes on every day know and commonly. So you don't like the song on the thing don't frigen buy it you have a right to freedom of religion in this country that protected those who beleaved differently then others and those who did not beleave at all not to be persacuted for there beliefs or lack there of. It says nothing about you having the right to eradicate religion from all facets of American society and culture. Look at these kids at school that walked out because they felt under God was ofensive to what ever and they have no frigen idea what there talking about they just know it got them out of school. I don't know about you but in my day didn't matter to our parents you would have got your ass wiped for pulling a stunt like that wether your parents were religious or not. Kids have no respect for teachers , parents etc. and we wonder why all the problems with the youth we have to day.
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Old 10-02-2007, 11:56 AM
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Do you think the children are the only ones that hear the song?


Uhm, is a little tune probably picked out to fill a lack of variety in jingle jangle tunes in the Fischer Price catalog are inherintly offensive?

Get a life.

Its a little toy for a baby. Fischer Price makes Christmas toys for children, lets boycott them cause its obviously a ploy to convert the masses to Evil Christianty...


Pick your battles. this isnt even something to start a battle over.
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Old 10-02-2007, 12:00 PM
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The last "gasp" for air as the seculars of this country are going down for the last time, drowning in their own sea of ideology. To even suggest that one could get a nation whose makeup is approximately 80% of the population to "boycott" a product whose conception was due to the fact of having the "demography" of buyers to meet the demand is simply "grasping" at air. Good luck, with that boycott thingy, you will need it. Its much like the ones that are behind in the ratings of media entertainment suggesting to "boycott" fox because they lead in the popularity polls....I am sure that the sponsors of the Fox networks are going stop advertising on the "most" popular time slots that allows a 30 second time slot to reach more than 10 such slots would reach on the other networks....the "math" just does not add up. BD



People watch fox news because the ladies wear short skirts. The Katie Couric method of getting viewers...
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Old 10-02-2007, 12:04 PM
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Lorry Dew (spelling) is seriously, Pam Anderson with a deeper tv voice and a "fuck me" face while she does the news. Fox knows who their pubic are... middle age white guys who have to use a pill to get it up and when it get's up... it get's used on his overweight, overaged wife who does want it anyway.

I will say she is one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen... Too bad she left, I belive it was NBC for the Reichstag.
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Old 10-02-2007, 12:06 PM
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You guys do realize that he was not serious about this. I could be wrong, but I suspect it was just a backhanded slap at all those who bitch about things like this by making it look even more ludicrous.
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Old 10-02-2007, 12:10 PM
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You guys do realize that he was not serious about this. I could be wrong, but I suspect it was just a backhanded slap at all those who bitch about things like this by making it look even more ludicrous.
But it is fun to get the Nazi's stirred up...no? BD
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