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10-01-2007, 06:14 PM
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SEE......I knew there was a reason I still liked you ;-)
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Originally Posted by crowonapost
In the context of hate is the absence of love...yes but when one moves past the paradox there is only one overriding 'Way' & it is Love.
So Love exists independent of hate. hate is just a child demanding the universe conform to its minuscule will. When the child lets go of it's demands it realizes it was there all along. Just not the way it expected it.
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10-01-2007, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by nihilist
you can fill yourself with love; but by doing so, you will be expotentially capable of just as much hate.
living by one does not mean that you are uncapable of the other. it's a delicate balancing act.
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Children will have tantrums but Wisdom does not.
BBC NEWS | South Asia | The roar of Rumi - 800 years on
I ask him to sum up the poet's message and he offers a quote.
"Mawlana says - if the sky is not in love, then it will not be so clear. If the sun is not in love, then it will not be giving any light. If the river is not in love, then it will be in silence, it will not be moving. If the mountains, the earth are not in love, then there will be nothing growing."
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10-02-2007, 02:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nihilist
love cannot exist, without hate. as a matter of fact, each owes their very existence to the other.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by crowonapost
In the context of hate is the absence of love...yes but when one moves past the paradox there is only one overriding 'Way' & it is Love.
So Love exists independent of hate. hate is just a child demanding the universe conform to its minuscule will. When the child lets go of it's demands it realizes it was there all along. Just not the way it expected it.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nihilist
you can fill yourself with love; but by doing so, you will be expotentially capable of just as much hate.
living by one does not mean that you are uncapable of the other. it's a delicate balancing act.
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10-02-2007, 01:12 PM
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Children will have tantrums but Wisdom does not. :-)
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Originally Posted by crowonapost
Children will have tantrums but Wisdom does not.
BBC NEWS | South Asia | The roar of Rumi - 800 years on
I ask him to sum up the poet's message and he offers a quote.
"Mawlana says - if the sky is not in love, then it will not be so clear. If the sun is not in love, then it will not be giving any light. If the river is not in love, then it will be in silence, it will not be moving. If the mountains, the earth are not in love, then there will be nothing growing." |
 not in love, then there will be nothing growing 
MOODY BLUES LYRICS - Minstrel's Song
"Words" a simple song
A minstrel sings ( in the gallery)
A way of life in his eyes
Hear the morning call of waking birds
When they are singing, bringing
Love - love.
Everywhere love is all around,
Everywhere love is all around.
Now the winter's gone
Cold wind has blown
The endless stream in our lives
Where the minstrel sings
This simple song
He's always bringing, singing,
Love - love.
Everywhere love is all around,
Everywhere love is all around.
Listen to the one
Who sings of love.
Follow our friend,
Our wandering friend,
Listen to the one,
Who sings of love.
Everywhere love is around,
Around, around.
Here the nations sing
Our minstrel's song,
As he walks by in their lives
Soon the spring will come,
And everyone will all be singing, bringing
Love - love
Everywhere love is all around,
Everywhere love is all around.
Listen to the one
Who sings of love.
Follow our friend,
Our wandering friend,
Listen to the one,
Who sings of love.
Everywhere love is around,
Around, around.
Live Search: SITTING BULL holy man prophecy of the WHITE BUFFALO
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10-03-2007, 12:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nihilist
you can fill yourself with love; but by doing so, you will be expotentially capable of just as much hate.
living by one does not mean that you are uncapable of the other. it's a delicate balancing act.
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With great ability comes great possibility to abuse that ability for evil.
Ok, so does hate have to exist for love? That’s actually a really interesting thought. Well, I don’t think that love and hate are dependent on the other for existence. For example there is a possible world where everything in existence could be green without the possibility of anything being a different color. At the same time in a world such as that would it not also be true that we would lose the appreciation of how beautiful the color green can be? So does hate need to exist for us to appreciate love? I would say no. If everything in the world was green you wouldn’t need red to appreciate green. You could have blue or yellow or purple ECT. All you need is something that is not green. So for love to be appreciated all you need is something that is not love. But does that need to even be reality? I would argue all you need is the possibility of its existence. Can we gain a new understanding of love from hate in the world? Perhaps, but we could enjoy love just for the very fact that there is the possibility of rejecting love.
But those are just my thoughts and I’m a little tired right now so I don’t know if that is written very clearly.
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10-29-2007, 11:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ONEWHITEDUCK
not in love, then there will be nothing growing
MOODY BLUES LYRICS - Minstrel's Song
"Words" a simple song
A minstrel sings ( in the gallery)
A way of life in his eyes
Hear the morning call of waking birds
When they are singing, bringing
Love - love.
Everywhere love is all around,
Everywhere love is all around.
Now the winter's gone
Cold wind has blown
The endless stream in our lives
Where the minstrel sings
This simple song
He's always bringing, singing,
Love - love.
Everywhere love is all around,
Everywhere love is all around.
Listen to the one
Who sings of love.
Follow our friend,
Our wandering friend,
Listen to the one,
Who sings of love.
Everywhere love is around,
Around, around.
Here the nations sing
Our minstrel's song,
As he walks by in their lives
Soon the spring will come,
And everyone will all be singing, bringing
Love - love
Everywhere love is all around,
Everywhere love is all around.
Listen to the one
Who sings of love.
Follow our friend,
Our wandering friend,
Listen to the one,
Who sings of love.
Everywhere love is around,
Around, around.
Live Search: SITTING BULL holy man prophecy of the WHITE BUFFALO
.......Q
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.....(^I^)
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^I^
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YouTube - Moody Blues Isn't Life Strange Rare Version
"Isn't Life Strange"
Isn't life strange
A turn of the page
Can read like before
Can we ask for more?
Each day passes by
How hard man will try?
The sea will not wait
You know it makes me want to cry, cry, cry -
Wished I could be in your heart
To be one with your love
Wished I could be in your eyes
Looking back there you were, and here we are.
Isn't love strange
A word we arrange
With no thought or care
Maker of despair
Each breath that we breathe
With love we must weave
To make us as one
You know it makes me want to cry, cry, cry -
Wished I could be in your heart
To be one with your love
Wished I could be in your eyes
Looking back there you were, and here we are.
Isn't life strange
A turn of the page
A book without light
Unless with love we write;
To throw it away
To lose just a day
The quicksand of time
You know it makes me want to cry, cry, cry -
Wished I could be in your heart
To be one with your love
Wished I could be in your eyes
"Looking" back there you were:
MOODY BLUES LYRICS - The Dream
"The Dream"
When the white eagle of the North is flying overhead
The browns, reds and golds of autumn lie in the gutter, dead.
Remember then, that summer birds with wings of fire flaying
Came to witness springs new hope, born of leaves decaying.
Just as new life will come from death, love will come at leisure.
Love of love, love of life and giving without measure
Gives in return a wonderous yearn of a promise almost seen.
Live hand-in-hand and together we'll stand on the threshold of a dream.
MOODY BLUES lyrics
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