How is Jesus God...

bluedog · #11 (**permalink**) 08-21-2007, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ken.e

So why the worship?

Hercules was also the son of god

Because he is the Christ also......The Son of God. BD

bluedog · #12 (**permalink**) 08-21-2007, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ken.e

So why the worship?

Hercules was also the son of god

Nope he was the son of "A" mythological god....with a small g. BD

ken.e · #13 (**permalink**) 08-21-2007, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bluedog

Nope he was the son of "A" mythological god....with a small g. BD

all gods are mythological.

How many hundreds of years did it take for Christianity to become known in China? this should prove the point.

ken.e · #14 (**permalink**) 08-21-2007, 04:01 PM

I guess god did not have time for the aborigines, chinese or native americans for a long while, to busy with his "chosen" people

bluedog · #15 (**permalink**) 08-21-2007, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ken.e

all gods are mythological.

How many hundreds of years did it take for Christianity to become known in China? this should prove the point.

And what point are you proving, nothing in fact, you are trying to debunk something that can not be debunked. The non-existence of Deity has been approached throughout history, with no success. You just can not prove that God does not exist, you may state your free will reasons in choosing not to believe but you can not disprove His existence.....as it all is a matter of faith and faith is intangible, much as God is a Spirit. But it is amusing to watch the secular types "KICK AGAINST THE PRICKS". BD

wvpeach · #16 (**permalink**) 08-21-2007, 04:21 PM

Ken. e not to argue, but what you say about God not having time for other nations and cultures is not true.

Being a lay student of the worlds religions for well over 20 years I can tell you that most societies have a story very similiar to the christian new testament.

http://www.wolflodge.org/sananda/walked-america.htm

The above link will take you to the story of the son of God coming to tell native American Indians that white men were coming to take over their land and they should not fight it as it was the great fathers plan (God) Interestingly enough they record much the same kind of stuff we have in the NT as the Son of God saying to them.

In just about any country I have looked at you will find stories about the son of God coming to the people to tell them what Father God expected of them. certainly most african and Asian nations have a story very similiar to our New Testament Jesus.

Just as the Muslims have our Jesus in their Quran as a man of God .

I suspect most people are going to be pretty surprised to find out when this old world finally ends that God does not care what color or country you live in, all God wants is our loyalty, love and faith.

crowonapost · #17 (**permalink**) 08-21-2007, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bluedog

Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God....he is God in the same manner in which a baby grows up to be a man...His father is God and thus he also is deity, he can be nothing but that which he is....He is Deity because his Father is Deity thus the title The Son of God......yet He is human because his mother is human....thus the title The Son of Man. He is God via the fact that he had the Spirit without measure, he did the will of God....thus he was God in the flesh. The Christ had a duality to his nature because that is the only way that God could actually come into physical contact with man....IE God is a Spirit. His purpose was to make a new covenant between God and Man to defeat sin....the only way to do this was to be both Deity and Flesh as he had to live his entire life without sin in order to defeat sin...it took God in the flesh to accomplish this feat, something that was not accomplished before or after the fact of such. This was the "only" way to do away with the old covenant which condemned mankind to death because of his sinful nature...as the Christ did away with the writings of the law that were contrary to man and introduced the new law of GRACE. BD

BD That was actually a GREAT description. I found that very well stated & quite moving. Good Job! (Not joking here)

Heckler · #18 (**permalink**) 08-21-2007, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bluedog

And what point are you proving, nothing in fact, you are trying to debunk something that can not be debunked. The non-existence of Deity has been approached throughout history, with no success. You just can not prove that God does not exist, you may state your free will reasons in choosing not to believe but you can not disprove His existence.....as it all is a matter of faith and faith is intangible, much as God is a Spirit. But it is amusing to watch the secular types "KICK AGAINST THE PRICKS". BD

And you can't prove your god does exist.

Stalemate.

ken.e · #19 (**permalink**) 08-21-2007, 05:50 PM

The non-exsistance of god cannot be proven. Negatives cannot be proven. Since you cannot prove there is a god, non belief is the default postion.

I have faith in the LA Dodgers winning the world series, but it does not mean I have any good reasons to think that they will.

Faith= Lack of reason and evidence.

bluedog · #20 (**permalink**) 08-21-2007, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ken.e

The non-exsistance of god cannot be proven. Negatives cannot be proven. Since you cannot prove there is a god, non belief is the default postion.

I have faith in the LA Dodgers winning the world series, but it does not mean I have any good reasons to think that they will.

Faith= Lack of reason and evidence.

Why do you then "keep" trying to make claims that God does not exist? By your same logic you are a liar.....because you can not prove what you say. BD