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Old 02-02-2007, 07:39 PM
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The "Palestinians" haven't got caught up on the right of return?

Really?

Israel offered almost everything they wanted and Ararat refused based on the lack of the right to return.

No they did not, this is a myth that the great peacemaker Jimmy Carter debunked in his book "Peace not apartheid" . He was a lot closer to the negotiations than you were.
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This is called a red herring. I didn't say anything about the media.


Hmmm. Do YOU think the media is left wing?



You are confusing causation and correlation as well as shifting the scope.

Because factions are doesn't mean the whole is, nor was that what the argument is.

Who cares if you call it a red herring or a pink poodle?

You started the thread, so you go ahead and define for me who the left is and you tell me if the media is a part of this "left"
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Old 02-03-2007, 02:45 PM
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No they did not, this is a myth that the great peacemaker Jimmy Carter debunked in his book "Peace not apartheid" . He was a lot closer to the negotiations than you were.
The book you refer to required an apology by the author.

"The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" "debunked" things too.

so did the "Turner Diaries", "Mein Kampf" and other screeds,.


In case you didn't know....it is possible for haters to publish their books, and as you demonstrate there is a market of willing dupes willing to "pretend" to have read them.
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Old 02-03-2007, 02:49 PM
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Who cares if you call it a red herring or a pink poodle?
Instead of pretending to read Carter's latest screed against Jews, why not learn that in rhetoric and argumentation a "red herring" is a fallacious argument.

I am unaware of the "pink poodle" fallacious argument.


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You started the thread, so you go ahead and define for me who the left is and you tell me if the media is a part of this "left"
I have never heard anyone, up until you did it, call the media leftwing.

I have heard people say that there is a liberal media bias, and yes I do think that there is a self-defined liberal bias in the media.

But no. I don't think that the media is "leftwing". Certainly there are outlets in the media that are definitely leftwing but they are hardly mainstream.
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