Trent Lott---the GOP's resident bigot, but he liked Nixon.

HuffDawg · #21 (**permalink**) 11-16-2006, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by erasmus 6

To the best of my knowledge Robert Byrd did not last week say that he was going to vote for the grand dragon of the kkk, which is about what Lott did.

But you see, I do not care so much about his racist qualifications...I think more about his having voted thee time for Nixon and three times against Clinton...this should tell us all about this guy that we need to know.

Those instances were 30 years apart almost. How can you compare political times then to how they are now. People change in 30 years.

George O Well · #22 (**permalink**) 11-16-2006, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dom1

I guess you have never heard of Robert Byrd.

By the way Einstein, who introduced the first two Civil Rights Acts into Congress?

Answer: Eisenhower.

By the way, the first one had many vote against it, including JFK. It is true, look it up. I am right. LBJ also watered down the legistation quite a bit, and he did stay a Democrat. Other Democrats such as Al Gore Sr. and Robert Byrd (again, who is still inthe Senate in case you haven't heard) filibustered against the CR Acts of 1965. They remained Democrats. Again, your knowledge of historical facts is severely lacking.

Quit it.
Really.
You need to stop.
You are just making yourself look foolish by being so ignorant of the history of the United States.

By the way, I don't give a shit if I offend you or not.

>>>That was THEN, this is NOW. And let's face it, if you were a Democrat 40 years ago and a Republican TODAY, and if you live in the South, you are probably a racist. LBJ knew what he was talking about when he signed that CR legislation.

HuffDawg · #23 (**permalink**) 11-16-2006, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Areyouforreal

Dom Erasmus is the biggest troll on the forum. Just ignore him and go on.
I actually think that he is someone else on this board.

HMMM i think i may have brought that up previously....
Food for thought

Dom1 · #24 (**permalink**) 11-16-2006, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by George O Well

>>>That was THEN, this is NOW. And let's face it, if you were a Democrat 40 years ago and a Republican TODAY, and if you live in the South, you are probably a racist. LBJ knew what he was talking about when he signed that CR legislation.

He was talking about then, so it was relevant. He brings up how the Republicans did nothing for civil rights, well I say Eisenhower wouldn't be a Democrat today, so evidently the first president to bring this up was a Republican THEN and would be a Republican NOW. What I do think is different between then and now is that if JFK tried to run for president as a Democrat now with the same platform he wouldn't get the nomination.

He also said nothing about being from the south OR the north, merely being a Republican or a Democrat.

As to LBJ knowing what he was talking about when he signed the legislation, what are you talking about. I said that LBJ actually watered down the CR ACt of 1957, which he did, and that JFK voted against it, which he did (you do believe that both of these men would still be Democrats don't you?). Al Gore Sr. remained a Democrat and his son certainly did as well - I am sure the old man had at least a little influence on the boy. Byrd stayed a Democrat also (a little of THEN and NOW).

Are the Democrats in Maryland racist because they didn't elect Michael Steele?

George O Well · #25 (**permalink**) 11-16-2006, 05:27 PM

"As to LBJ knowing what he was talking about when he signed the legislation, what are you talking about."

>>>Johnson acknowledge that the South was lost to the Democrats when he signed the CR Act.

rob · #26 (**permalink**) 11-16-2006, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by George O Well

"As to LBJ knowing what he was talking about when he signed the legislation, what are you talking about."

>>>Johnson acknowledge that the South was lost to the Democrats when he signed the CR Act.

Ok, that means what? LBJ came up as a poor son of a hard scraple farmer from Texas. I beleive that LBJ could see the world was changing and was still trying to keep people of color down, but at the same time appear to be a champion of civil rights.

The south as well as the north has pockets of people on both sides of the political spectrem that want to live in the past.

The present times have seen the race card used when indviduals refuse to take responsibilty for their decsions. How can we get past this?

My own ancestors owned slaves in the early 1800's that doesn't make me a racist today.

Dom1 · #27 (**permalink**) 11-16-2006, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by George O Well

"As to LBJ knowing what he was talking about when he signed the legislation, what are you talking about."

>>>Johnson acknowledge that the South was lost to the Democrats when he signed the CR Act.

I don't dispute that, but he did water down the first CR Act, which was introduced by Eisenhower, and JFK did vote against it. Doesn't seem so altruistic when it is considered that politics DID trump politics when it came to the two guys who are credited with the advent federal civil rights. It is no wonder that Democrats say the CR movement within the federal government say it started in the Kennedy administration, it is tough to answer the actions by those two fellas in the 50's, when the federal government first began to deal with civil rights.

Dom1 · #28 (**permalink**) 11-16-2006, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by rob

Ok, that means what? LBJ came up as a poor son of a hard scraple farmer from Texas. I beleive that LBJ could see the world was changing and was still trying to keep people of color down, but at the same time appear to be a champion of civil rights.

My own ancestors owned slaves in the early 1800's that doesn't make me a racist today.

Politics were more important than civil rights to LBJ and JFK, at least it appears that way by their actions.

My own ancestors didn't even get here until AFTER the slaves were freed, so I wonder why some say I am somehow responsible for slavery?

heyjude122 · #29 (**permalink**) 11-16-2006, 10:39 PM

I don't hate gay Reps. Just Rep. hypocrits.

erasmus 6 · #30 (**permalink**) 11-17-2006, 05:53 AM

I certainly do love people who call me ignorant. I only hope that they can enlighten me., But my experience is mostly of the sort where I am called names and then silence. Trent Lott has shone himself to be a bigot. There are others in the Senate. But Bob Byrd, for example, will not be the number two man. Also, Byrd has repudiated his KKK ties and does not go around singing the praies of George Wallace.