Army Recruiters

fenianforever1689 · #11 (**permalink**) 06-06-2007, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ken.e

Wanna bet?

Yes..........

ken.e · #12 (**permalink**) 06-06-2007, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by fenianforever1689

Yes..........

Well, I win.

In my little sister's high school, last year recruiters came to her CLASSROOM.

freedomlover · #13 (**permalink**) 06-06-2007, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by fenianforever1689

-About two weeks ago I heard a program on NPR about “sacrifice” and this war. The panelists made the point that this war, unlike those in the past, require almost NO sacrifices by the people in general.

I agree with this statement. So far, there has been no rationing of anything. And in everyday life, what price exactly has the ordinary citizen paid. Neither war has had an effect on the ordinary citizen lifestyle.

-A Stanford professor made the point that young educateds are not joining the military and mentioned that a 60’s graduating class of Princeton University had an enrollment in the military in the hundreds and in the 00’s it was in the teens…this professor found this disturbing and perplexing.

Several reasons can be attributed to this. Number one would be the unpopular wars of Viet Nam and Iraq. Also, finances would have an effect. Why enlist for much less than what you can make in the private sector. And then too, they would be putting their futures on hold and not getting the experience of the people they would be competing with in the future.

- Stanford University is in Palo Alto California which is on the peninsula in the San Francisco Bay Area. The SFBA is a hotbed of anti-Americanism, and this cannot be disputed. The city of SF routinely pass laws condemning the American military. And San Francisco State University students recently attacked physically and verbally recruiters on campus.

What laws? Do you have links for these laws?

-Today I heard that the Berkeley Unified High School District is the ONLY district that bars recruiters from campus and they are about to lose funding and BE sued by the federal government. {So much for the left’s commitment to choice}

I don't think that they should be barred. However, I do think that recruiters need to be extremely honest in portraying actual military life.

-Recently John Kerry, the Dems presidential candidate in 2004, made the observation that dummies have to go to Iraq . {Put to rest that Kerry is a volunteer war hero. He joined a Naval reserve unit that had NEVER been called up. He was trying to NOT serve}

Good ol' John Kerry. I guess both sides of the fence have politicians that should not be politicians.

-On California campuses ROTC groups are mercilessly harassed.

I think this is very sad. Do you have a link for this?

-Fully 90% of college professors in state schools oppose this war, and 70% of the state’s professors oppose ANY military action by the USA for ANY reason including 9/11.

Do you have a link for these statistics? While I can certainly understand them opposing the Iraq war, I don't understand their reasoning for opposing fighting terrorism, with the exception that most of us on the left don't believe that is what we are doing.

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-----In light of these and other similar attitudes, is it any surprise that people don’t want to join the military out of college?

I think that it is a sad state, but not surprising.

gdfather02 · #14 (**permalink**) 06-06-2007, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ken.e

Well, I win.

In my little sister's high school, last year recruiters came to her CLASSROOM.

And the problem with that is what?? I am quite sure that a notice of some sort was sent out to the parents of the students, informing them that they were going to have speakers coming in to talk.

At that time, I am quite sure that the parents were perhaps allowed to "opt out" of having their child listen to the recruiters.

Everyone has a choice as to whether they want to join the military or not. We, as a military, do not go into classrooms, with guns blazing, forcing parents to have their kids join the military.

As a reminder to you, we are STILL an all volunteer military....

justme · #15 (**permalink**) 06-06-2007, 03:43 PM

A while back, the local liberal talk-show host took a call from a "mom" whose son had joined the marines and , get this, HAD BEEN SENT TO IRAQ. She was bemoaning how the recruiter had lied and said her son would NEVER have to go to war.
The host, of course, used the opportunity to rail against recruiters and their lies.
I couldn't help wonder about the intelligence of the mom or her son. The marines are fighting in 2 different countries...Now either the recruiter was way slick, "mom" is lying, or both mom and son (self-professed liberals) are just about the dumbest things on earth.

nathanbforrest45 · #16 (**permalink**) 06-06-2007, 03:58 PM

Last year the military came to UC Santa Cruz to recruit. My neice is a student there, she also works in one of the offices. A group of protesters stormed the office, trampled my neice and has left her crippled. The university has denied any responsibility in the matter and she is now suing the school. It was impossible to identify the left wing thugs who actually stomped her.

This is your freedom of speech bunch. You can say anything you want as long as it fits what I want you to say.

They are as bad as union bosses, nothing but thugs and goons

rob · #17 (**permalink**) 06-06-2007, 04:04 PM

Let the schools ban recuriters and lose all federal monies. They still have the right to prevent the military from coming into the school but at what cost is it worth to the school bueracrats?

bluedog · #18 (**permalink**) 06-06-2007, 04:18 PM

Does no one wonder why we have become so polarized?.....its not only politics...its in our very common every day life.....America has always been a country to accept the outcasts of the world..that deemed their own country less than a desirable place to take care of their families and have gainful employment....all for any number of reasons...and we as country...did not care....and up until the last couple of decades...the system worked fine...until we began having so many people coming at once....and the pace at which they as a whole were assimilated into our culture....Now we find they not only wish to come here...they wish to bring their politics and ideologies with them.....we as a country do indeed need to take a "TIME OUT"....until such time as the ones we have are assimilated into our...language and culture....when the time comes and one can pick up a phone and not be offered the "ENGLISH LANGUAGE" as an option....we will be close..to the right time to "REOPEN" our borders........BD

HuffDawg · #19 (**permalink**) 06-06-2007, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ken.e

Gays do not go into classrooms recruiting.

Recruiters do not go INTO classrooms either. They set up tables and put information out there for any and all interested. Its alot like TV, if you don't like it, don't watch it. People don't have to go to the tables and get information. Everyone has a right to be heard. I joined and served to protect that right. Am I against abortion? Yes, but do they have a right to speak? YES. I am against white-supremacy groups. Do they have a right to speak? YES.

To limit the people that can be heard is what our fore fathers fought against. I may not agree with them, but if they want to spew their information, its up to me to use my judgement and morals to act accordingly.

Sam · #20 (**permalink**) 06-06-2007, 05:47 PM

I am not sure about other school districts policies. In the public school district where my son is a senior the miltary recruiters have access on career information days which occur 4-5 times per year. Colleges/vocational schools/potential employers/trade apprentice recruiters and military recruiters all set up information tables and booths.I think that is a fair and reasonable way to approach this.