Next step for cigarettes in TN

gdfather02 · #11 (**permalink**) 06-06-2007, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45

The government does not want to out law cigarettes, they make far too much money off the taxes to do that. They even subsidize some tobacco growers now

No doubt!! Way to much money for the government to give up!!

gdfather02 · #12 (**permalink**) 06-06-2007, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cat's meow

In a way I don't dissagree with you (as usual) but I certainly don't want to have the gov pass up a good revenue source. In some of a my most creative of thinking we should legalize drugs, regulate it, and then tax the living sh*t out of it. Many problems are residual so that would not probably work...

Off topic...yours and my dads guys (tarheels) made it to the CWS, next round, and none of my guys (Tx, Mem) did...

It is a hell of a source of revenue!!

The drug issue, I sort of lean towards the legalization or at least the decriminalization of marijuana. That way, the taxation and profit made off of that could go back into the community as a whole, instead of a select few (as is the case now).
But that is a discussion for another day!!

cat's meow · #13 (**permalink**) 06-06-2007, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45

Tennessee borders on 8 states. Almost nowhere in Tennessee is more than 100 miles from another state. I don't smoke but my brother in law does. We live 11 miles from the North Carolina border. What is TN going to do, put a customs station up at all the borders?

Nate, you make a very good point and this will be a problem in TN; trying to tax cigs. One of the dumbest things I have seen while I have lived here for ten years in the mentality of the 'NO STATE TAX' but only having a sales tax. Hello McFly...wake up...the three major metro areas all sit a short distance away from other states (Memphis your ON TOP OF TWO borders). For heaven's sake, people go grocery shopping (let alone everything else) in MS and AR. Why the hell would a major mall with four big anchor stores be built JUST ACROSS THE STATE LINE in MS on I55? There is not the consumer base to sustain a mall like that there, but there certainly is just across in Memphis

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36shadow · #14 (**permalink**) 06-06-2007, 03:20 PM

Hell i hope the bill passes and the immagration bill and any other fucked up crap they have in store then maybe the American people will finaly stop bitching and argueing like polaticians and finaly stand up and do something to stop these maniacs because we don't do anything anymore unless we have to.

nathanbforrest45 · #15 (**permalink**) 06-06-2007, 03:22 PM

One more thing, if cigarettes continue to rise many people will turn to "roll your own" as a method of by passing the taxes. Pipe tobacco is not taxed the same as cigarettes. Back in the 50's and 60's tobacco companies like Bull Durham and others sold "rolling machines" that would turn out a passable cigarette. I can see that coming back over this.

cat's meow · #16 (**permalink**) 06-06-2007, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45

One more thing, if cigarettes continue to rise many people will turn to "roll your own" as a method of by passing the taxes. Pipe tobacco is not taxed the same as cigarettes. Back in the 50's and 60's tobacco companies like Bull Durham and others sold "rolling machines" that would turn out a passable cigarette. I can see that coming back over this.

Yep........

justme · #17 (**permalink**) 06-06-2007, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45

Tennessee borders on 8 states. Almost nowhere in Tennessee is more than 100 miles from another state. I don't smoke but my brother in law does. We live 11 miles from the North Carolina border. What is TN going to do, put a customs station up at all the borders?

After Illinois raised their taxes a few years ago, they did erect signs at their borders advising it was illegal to bring the cigarettes in. I don't remember exactly how they had it worded or what the limit was, but it always struck me as funny.
Also get a kick out of the proponents of taxing cigarettes. Looks good on paper and maybe we can get people to stop smoking. Well, states rarely LOWER their budgets. If the smoking tax is successful and people quit, where do you suppose they are gonna make up their new budget shortfalls?
Your vice might be next.

rob · #18 (**permalink**) 06-06-2007, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by justme

After Illinois raised their taxes a few years ago, they did erect signs at their borders advising it was illegal to bring the cigarettes in. I don't remember exactly how they had it worded or what the limit was, but it always struck me as funny.
Also get a kick out of the proponents of taxing cigarettes. Looks good on paper and maybe we can get people to stop smoking. Well, states rarely LOWER their budgets. If the smoking tax is successful and people quit, where do you suppose they are gonna make up their new budget shortfalls?
Your vice might be next.

Goverment can try to suggest a healthy life style but they can't force it on people. They have tried it before and it didn't work.

oceanbreeze · #19 (**permalink**) 06-06-2007, 04:17 PM

UOTE=rob;173685]Goverment can try to suggest a healthy life style but they can't force it on people. They have tried it before and it didn't work.[/quote]

cigarettes=lung cancer. Ban them and chew as well.

BAN TRANS FATS

36shadow · #20 (**permalink**) 06-06-2007, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by rob

Goverment can try to suggest a healthy life style but they can't force it on people. They have tried it before and it didn't work.

The govt. worried about our health that is funny ,if you pay them enough they will tell you cigs. are healthy just like the factories and plant illigal dumping etc,. see the humor.