Is this a lie?

On January 11, 2007 in Presidents Bush's Sate of the Union address he said"America's men and women in uniform took away al Qaeda's safe haven in Afghanistan, and we will not allow them to re-establish it in Iraq."

What he did not say was that yes we took away their haven and then invaded Iraq with no Al Quaida and we have allowed them to regroup along the border of Afghanistan and Pakistan. Pakistan has some nuclear technology-what if a new government gains control of Pakistan? I think President Bush took his eye off Afghanistan and has allowed a real threat to blossum.Were his words a lie? Did we really take away Al Quaeda from the bordering regions with Pakistan ?

Al qeada is a buzz word like WMD is a buzz acronym. Its used to describe every criminal gang with a beef. Resistance in Afghnistan never left nor will it ever. Id like to see what the plan is and was for Afghnistan all I ever seen was its one big IOWA Idiots out wondering around.

Well Bush says all is well in Afghanistan and Cheney seems to think differently. Who is correct? I copied Bush rhetoric from his State of the Union address and copied a far right source for Cheney's warning.

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Cheney Warns Musharraf Al Qaeda Regrouping in Pakistan
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ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — Vice President Dick Cheney warned Monday that Al Qaeda is "regrouping" on the Afghanistan and Pakistan border and sought President Gen. Pervez Musharraf's help in a stiffened push against Taliban and Al Qaeda militants, Musharraf's office said.

Cheney's unannounced stopover en route to Afghanistan came as British Foreign Secretary Margaret Beckett also held talks with Musharraf and expressed concern about suspected militant safe havens near the Afghan frontier.

"Cheney expressed U.S. apprehensions of regrouping of Al Qaeda in the tribal areas and called for concerted efforts in countering the threat," according to a faxed statement from the presidential office.

oh the horror, the president was bragging on the troops... quick someone get a rope!

What a coward you are-not to mention a moron. You actually believe it is acceptable to tell us Al quaeda is no longer a threat in Afghanistan for the purpose of bragging. Are you really an American?

He should commend those troops-its not their fault he chose to chase imaginary threats elsewhere for whatever reasons and allow an enemy that attacked us to regain strength along a border with a country that has nuclear technology.

What a spineless coward you are- to hide in a shadow-afraid to speak with a woman on a political forum.

The real reason for being Afghanistan, is to protect the pipeline being built from the Caspian Sea to the Enron built refinery in India. Until this project is complete, there will be a US presence, even when completed they'll still have to protect it from the Afghan people, because their not allowed its benefits.
Remember when the Taliban visited the White House, as reported in the newspaper,USA TODAY. The year was 1999, and the US government was courting the Taliban, so as to get approval for building this pipeline through Afghanistan. This was also before Enron collasped, so there was alot of pressure on the US government from Enron, Haliburton and other big players, to get this project underway. So what ever the deal was suppose to be, it obiviously failed, two years later the US government starts bombing Afghanistan, the Taliban are destroyed, and the pipleline starts being built.

So I think the Bush Junta will still need properganda milage from Afghanistan, after all thats where the boggyman(Osama binLaden) lives, up in those mountains somewhere, don't he?.

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Sam, yes I believe that by taking our eye off OBL and Alqaeda we have allowed a real threat to blossom in Pakistan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waziristan_Accord

The northern part of Pakistan is basically controlled by the Taliban and Al Qaeda. Musharaff basically gave part of the country over to the control of them. This guy is trying desparately to hang onto his Presidency, and in doing so, is becoming less of an American ally.

Musharraf lets Taliban attack Canadian troops: security expert
Last Updated: Monday, September 11, 2006 | 12:13 PM ET
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Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf has refused to clamp down on pro-Taliban elements in his own country and is allowing the militants to launch attacks on Canadian troops, a security expert says.

Canadian officers stationed in southern Afghanistan increasingly find young Pakistani men among the ranks of Taliban fighters who have trained in the radical mosques of Pakistan.

Following the Sept. 11 attacks, Musharraf was declared a key ally in the "war on terror."

But Sunil Ram, a former officer in the Canadian Forces who teaches at an American military university, said Musharraf has reneged on a promise to shut down hundreds of extremist religious schools preaching hatred against the West.

Ram says that Pakistan is not willing to purge Taliban supporters from the Pakistani military and intelligence services, despite claims to the contrary.

"Why hasn't he shut down the madrassas [Islamic religious schools]? Why hasn't he sealed the border?"

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"Ultimately the situation in Pakistan is feeding the situation in Afghanistan," Ram said.

Musharraf's admission

On a visit to Kabul to meet Afghan President Hamid Karzai last week, Musharraf admitted for the first time that the Taliban are using Pakistan as a base.

"There are al-Qaeda and Taliban in both Afghanistan and Pakistan," Musharraf said. "Clearly they are crossing from the Pakistan side and causing bomb blasts in Afghanistan.’"

But Musharraf denied that his government or his intelligence agency support the incursions.

Musharraf said he's put 75,000 troops on the border to stop the flow of arms and recruits, but insists it's impossible to seal the border.

Ram said it's a question of priorities.

"It can be done … he has a half million troops on the border with Indian Kashmir," he said.

Switched sides

Pakistan was a strong supporter of Afghanistan's former Taliban regime, but switched sides after the Sept. 11 attacks.

Since then, Islamabad has arrested more than 700 al-Qaeda suspects, including some close associates of Osama bin Laden.

Some Afghan and U.S. officials think top al-Qaeda and Taliban leaders like bin Laden are hiding either in Pakistan or near the Pakistan-Afghan border.

With files from the Associated Press

Hi Sam,

I would say technically that it is not a lie. We did eliminate Afghanistan as a safe haven for Al Qaeda meaning that they can no longer operate freely, using bases and camps for training, having centralized command and control. Now, they are still there and in Pakistan....but, in a more stealthy fashion.

His statement about Iraq is sort of true as well. We'd like to keep Iraq from becoming a safe haven in Iraq.....although I think the chance of that happening is really very small independent of what we do. Neither the Shias or the Baathist particularly care for Al Qaeda.

Of course, what GWB's statement left out was why Iraq became an Al Qaeda concern in the first place.....

So, let's take the words he said, add in some lines of what he didn't say, and come up with a lie? How about looking at what man said and determine if it is fact or fiction. From the line you quoted the only thing you can attempt to find as untrue is whether or not Al Qaeda has a safe haven in Afghanistan. If you can show this to be untrue then you can say he lied.

Why is all this effort put into dissecting the President's words for the sole purpose of finding fault? The man will not be President in another 18 months. What a waste of time. Maybe you could focus as much attention on the words he has spoken that you believe to be true!