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02-19-2008, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by reccles44
I think the fixation here is on the people who say Bush lied. I don't know how many times it has been proven that these "lies" were the same lies that Clinton ADMITTED to saying and knowing during his presidency. But you always forget that. People blame Bush for 9/11 when he was in office for less than 9 months. We knew those terrorist were in this country long before Bush was elected but again this is ignored. Most of those other 50 greatest accomplishment are half truths or total distortions or just plain lies.
And you claim is all you want is the truth. You people don't want the truth, you just hate Bush plain and simple.
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Actually I think you should probably double check the context you are putting any of Clinton's 'lies' into. But, alas, this is not a thread about proving Clinton lied. Stick to Bush and focus on him.
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02-20-2008, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by noneof yourbusiness
The entire Federal goverment that failed in reacting to warmings or instaling proper safeguards against 9/11 is to blame. That is not e4exclusive to but should include Bush
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Someone has common sense. The Entire Government that Bush Expanded 6 times since he has been our un-president, is at fault. Another reason why I believe Government is evil and needs to be kicked down to a manageable level.
I personally blame every president since Nixon on 911. They wrote the foreign policy that leads to this crap.
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02-20-2008, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by cat's meow
I know this is hilarious for you...shoot for 100 pages, you have nothing better to do with your life.
I see you didn't check into the links provided, you have not refuted any of the lies. Congratulations!
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LMFAO this place is a good read in the morning with coffee. Full of right blinded apologists for the fucked up lies. Fucking hilarious.
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02-20-2008, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by cat's meow
Actually I think you should probably double check the context you are putting any of Clinton's 'lies' into. But, alas, this is not a thread about proving Clinton lied. Stick to Bush and focus on him.
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I think I was hitting the nail on the head. You see, if you say Bush lied then you would have to say Clinton lied about the same things. You cannot separate the two. Although I am sure you would like to. Clinton was "mis-informed" but Bush lied does not fly. Also, if Bush lied using the same information that Clinton had, (who by the way, gave Bush most of the intel upon the transfer of power) then should we not call into question Clinton's motives and beliefs. Was Clinton giving Bush faulty info on purpose or did he truly believe he was giving him accurate info?
The same goes for all the foreign intel. Did they intentionally give Bush poor info or did they give him the info they thought was real and true? Bush got his info from many sources as evidenced in his "lies" because they were repeated by other world leaders including France who was not our friend in all this. So this is not so cut and dry as to say Bush lied. It takes a lot of people in this situation, to lie in order for our President to lie as well.
But you people hate Bush so much that logic thought escapes you.
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02-20-2008, 01:09 PM
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Oh and there is not definition of "is". Is is just "is". Now make sure you tell Clinton.
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02-20-2008, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by fenianforever1689
Go on.
Stupid leftists running off at the mouth
show that Bush lied.
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02-20-2008, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by reccles44
I think the fixation here is on the people who say Bush lied. I don't know how many times it has been proven that these "lies" were the same lies that Clinton ADMITTED to saying and knowing during his presidency. But you always forget that. People blame Bush for 9/11 when he was in office for less than 9 months. We knew those terrorist were in this country long before Bush was elected but again this is ignored. Most of those other 50 greatest accomplishment are half truths or total distortions or just plain lies.
And you claim is all you want is the truth. You people don't want the truth, you just hate Bush plain and simple.
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Stop talking through your fucking ass. Both Bush and Clinton are equal lying fucking assholes . We all know that WTC Bombings 1&2 were black ops. Only a fucking idiot could even fathom the 9/11 commission report not being a conspiracy theory.
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02-20-2008, 06:54 PM
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still no lies....how sad that the american left is reduced to tears over this.
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02-21-2008, 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by fenianforever1689
still no lies....how sad that the american left is reduced to tears over this.
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100 pages, you will make it soon, keep babbling and adding filler.
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02-21-2008, 12:38 AM
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Not really afraid of razor cuts or puranas I wondered if arguing the blame for the invasion of Iraq and the slaughter at Vtech together is like picking the fly shit out of the big pepper shaker, is this corelation remotely linked in any relative way that merits discussing them jointly. Assuming that this current administration has some planned continuity in the actions they take and the theories they present regarding the worst foreign policy decision in modern times I would assume that would spread the blame pretty far. Granted Bush is not the sharpest tool in the shed and the most likely candidate to be led, not lead, knowing Chaneys history and his desire to close the deal Bush Sr started and the profit involved in this invastion I would spread the blame [b][u]all over the buildings think tank. BUT part of being president is taking the responsibility of taking the buck and griping and bearing it. The point of blame is basically irrelevant now, but the case for change is unarguably overwhelming.
This war is not only an insult to our troops but has destryed a large portion of our childrens financial stability. Its more than a mess or a mistake its a historical embarrasment that will continue to cost this country at every level for several years to come.
I could argue the details of specific damage and irresponsibility but hopefully I don't have to. They are self evident to everyone by now, I hope.
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