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11-23-2007, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by fenianforever1689
yep. The Retard Leftards Can't Even Show A Lie Let Alone Prove One. I Wonder Who They Are Going To Blame For Their Failiings After January 21 2009?
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It's all YOUR fault. Yours and yours alone. Every concievable ill.
You bastard.
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11-23-2007, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ONEWHITEDUCK
STAND HERE AND STARE AT YOU
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Thanks DUCK you know how I love my adoring fans.
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01-28-2008, 10:24 PM
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All in one central location...
All the Bush lies in one central location...
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President Bush, for example, made 232 false statements about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and another 28 false statements about Iraq's links to Al Qaeda.
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So of 935 for the entire administration that calculates to President George W. Bush making roughly 28% of the lies just on these subjects alone.
Does not get more conclusive than this.
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01-28-2008, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by cat's meow
All the Bush lies in one central location...
So of 935 for the entire administration that calculates to President George W. Bush making roughly 28% of the lies just on these subjects alone.
Does not get more conclusive than this.
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Oh Shit! That means I can't blame everything on Fenian.
damn.
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01-29-2008, 10:11 AM
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Role of a leader
Well first off contrary to popular belief, even though this goes against the title of this particular thread, bush is not the leading cause of all the problems. What Joe posted earlier about the government intervening between parents and children is correct and a perfect example of a waste of resources on the governments behalf. However, we have to look the what a leader means to understand why so many people cling to the notion its all dubyah's fault. No matter what any of us may think, leaders are responsible but not 100% culpable of the actions of their staff. What I mean is that he and staff members are responsible for the oversight of everything government in this country. Like a guiding star. When a leader turns a blind eye to certain issues or members of his staff to this, it reflects poorly on the type of governing ability that leader possess. Example, the search for Osama bin Laden was the primary purpose for us traveling to the middle east. And along the way they decided since they can't find Osama, go after a supposed conspirator Saddam Hussein. Okay, cohesion is another good quality to have as a leader too but lets stay on task. All the while, american economy was rapidly declining during our quest for vengeance. It was his task and still is till he is out of office to govern this country towards prosperity as was each president preceding him. But they had engrossed themselves so completely in this war on terror, which by the way is impossible to win, He neglected the state of affairs happening within his own country. Also another important aspect Bush and his staff are responsible for is making sure that businesses within our country do not over-steppe certain boundaries to allow for prosperity for all. But thus far He has given huge tax breaks to the top 2%. (which is a noted and documented fact. He even announced it on TV in his first term as president.) The top 2% does not need these tax breaks. No one should have been given tax breaks. period. I say that because if the lower 10% got tax breaks there wouldn't be enough money funneling through our government (side tracked sorry). His administration has allowed for companies to move all of their technical support positions to other countries, thusly eliminating thousands if not millions of jobs. As if we had not lost enough under the Clinton administration with losing textiles (which was already a huge blow to our economy). Look the list goes on and on as to what things he had no oversight over what so ever. But as president these are the very matters he was supposed to oversee. Now people use him as a scape goat for their anger but its not just him they should be upset with. The people need to be pissed with the companies who have nurtured such a situation. And they need to be upset with Their elected senators who failed to fight for a fair economy and their city leaders for not screaming fraud at the top of their lungs. Lastly I want to end it with a sidetrack from this conversation cause I think its important. The end result is WE are to blame for this situation. Most americans weren't politically involved before and the vast majority of us didn't care. We put our total trust in people who, even though they were lying, said they had a terrific new plan to make our lives better (people who had no structured actual plan, just a really good speech). We allowed this situation to occur and become this much of a problem. But the good news is that we can fix it if we really want to. Well thats my rant on the entire topic. Please feel free to shoot holes through it if you like but before you do, if you have not already read material on the topics I have spoken about above, I implore you to do so before responding. :-)
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01-29-2008, 10:36 AM
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So yes he lied.
So as a result, Bush lied. The end. Unintentional, but lied nonetheless. And just for kicks his father was a liar as well but that couldn't be helped (read my lips, no new taxes). When your a manager, boss, or leader you are responsible for the action or actions of the people under you. Just like at work. If your employee royally screws something up, your boss is gonna penalize you and you have to penalize or fire your employee. But guess what? even though you didn't personally screw it up, you were to oversee that worker to make sure the mistake wouldn't have happened in the first place. Failure as to whom messed up goes out the window. Its the fact there was a screw up in the beginning that gets you in trouble. A president is not excused from this same principle. I just hope this teaches not only Bush but the rest of us a lesson to remember. We are in charge of governing our country. So we best get to governating.
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01-29-2008, 10:39 AM
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SO.......it seems......LIES are not working :-) (lightbulb over head)
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01-29-2008, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Visions_ofthe_Void
And just for kicks his father was a liar as well but that couldn't be helped (read my lips, no new taxes).
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Your ignorance is exceptional. Congress controls the purse strings. But spin on! Perhaps you can fool the politically retarded here... but not those of us who know better and will call bullshit on your propaganda.
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THAT explains it!!!
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01-29-2008, 11:13 AM
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I can tell you who the real liars are. They are the Liberal Democrats. Besides, most of the info Bush is spewing out about 9/11 events and aftermath is the same stuff Clinton said. So I guess Clinton lied too. (oops bad example)
Want to know why liberals lie? then just read my latest blog today...to long to post here.
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01-29-2008, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by reccles44
I can tell you who the real liars are. They are the Liberal Democrats. Besides, most of the info Bush is spewing out about 9/11 events and aftermath is the same stuff Clinton said. So I guess Clinton lied too. (oops bad example)
Want to know why liberals lie? then just read my latest blog today...to long to post here.
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For the same reason conservatives do.....the ones that are stupid enough to try anyway.....
Plenty of examples to go around.
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