Yep still no lies.

You can claim that they are lies but then I am just going to claim that you are lying.

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I'm going to claim that you are a fucking idiot.

Because it must make you feel terrible to have the coginitive dissonance of not being able to actually come up with a lie.

Eat me fuckface.

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I was curious about this thread since there are 443 posts to it so I just read the last page.

Fenian, have you posted the same post following each of the posts by others?

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this is a good thread. everyone should read it.

Oh I don't know... maybe it's the well documented trail from Nigeria to the Italian rogue socialist version of the CIA, then simultaneously to Spain (who didn't want any part of it) and then finally to Britain. It's a story that every politically savvy European knows well. It's not a question, the evidence is there. I'll tell you something else they know over there that isn't well known over here... Lurking in the shadows at nearly every step of this process was none other than Micheal Ledeen himself (Karl Rove's only foreign policy operativ... I mean advisor) and certain old guard, Reagan era CIA contacts. It was during this same period that the Italian diplomat was kidnapped by the CIA resulting in a recent trial of several CIA agents in absentia.

I'm sorry, but Wilson is an idiot who didn't realize who was in the game. He IS superfluous. Especially in the face of what is common knowledge everywhere on the planet but here, that a document was manufactured to support a guess (at best), or an outright false justification to go to war. Gee that's only happened... let's see.... EVERY SINGLE TIME we've gone to war.

Nice try MA, but it really doesn't matter how bad Joe screwed up, it doesn't excuse, dismiss, negate or otherwise change the crime that was committed by operatives of OUR government in even giving that document any credence at all. Much less helping make sure that it found it's way into the hands of the British.

The entire story is out there... hell, you can even find several threads here that go into painstaking detail about "Nigergate" and Micheal Ledeen. Complete with links and quotes and sources. Sigh, back in the day when I actually had time to do research.

But to imply that even though Wilson was right, but lied at the time, has no bearing on the facts surrounding the well documented path that document traveled to get to the hands of Colin Powel's speech writer os absurd.

BTW, I won't have any time to answer questions, so I urge you all to do some looking around, non partisan sites of course.

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Yea. My insult was a little uncalled for. I edited my signature to even things out. I figured this new sig will help others to identify where I stand more efficiently, and it should be easier to tell when I'm being sarcastic now, too.

the report does exist. it was a 1998 report but it was dealing with iraq in 1991 but the president came out and said he mispoke a short time later.

When a guy tells me that we have to go to war because an evil dictator has weapons of mass destruction and could use them on us at anytime, and it turns out there are no weapons of mass destruction at all, that is lie enough (and proof enough) for me. Gettin' it now, buttplug?

So ... if someone told you there is a street gang called the 38th street gang that have some fully automatic weapons - it wouldn't be possible, plausible, nor reasonable?

That is something that you wouldn't be concerned with ... right?

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