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06-06-2007, 02:35 PM
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Cat, very good post. This is what I don't understand when people make excuses for the mistakes that Bush and this admin. have made. Granted, mistakes happen in a time of war; however, those mistakes should be minute, not cause the war to escalate to the out of control chaos that is now Iraq. People who still defend Bush don't want the left to bring up that there are really only two options with regards to the state of things in Iraq:
1: He didn't have his "ducks in row" as you point out, which makes him incompetent.
OR
2. He lied.
Take your choice.
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Just watch the Republican debates from last night. What is the logic in going against your own adminsitration and possibly alienating your base that might back this war (the roughly 30% left on the right)? But, not one of those candidates said the Bush administration has done a fantastic job all along, they ALL went after this president by talking about the problems that have been perpetuated. Are they all just conceding they will not be having one conservative voter go for them? Seems to be the case huh? Uh, no. This administration has made bad mistakes, and to the point of lying about them. Again, refer to these debates and it is quite telling. This goes beyond pandering for votes, you have to have your base to win.
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06-06-2007, 02:37 PM
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man I am tired of GWB and politics in general . How about those Astros ? Oh....yeah ...they suck too 
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06-06-2007, 02:47 PM
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man I am tired of GWB and politics in general . How about those Astros ? Oh....yeah ...they suck too 
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Yeah, along with the Cardinals. 
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06-06-2007, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by cat's meow
Just watch the Republican debates from last night. What is the logic in going against your own adminsitration and possibly alienating your base that might back this war (the roughly 30% left on the right)? But, not one of those candidates said the Bush administration has done a fantastic job all along, they ALL went after this president by talking about the problems that have been perpetuated. Are they all just conceding they will not be having one conservative voter go for them? Seems to be the case huh? Uh, no. This administration has made bad mistakes, and to the point of lying about them. Again, refer to these debates and it is quite telling. This goes beyond pandering for votes, you have to have your base to win.
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Yea the same thing the liberals spoke of in France...as the eventual winner..coming from the right disenfranchised himself from the party in power....conservative....the reason there seems to be a split on the conservative side...is very much domestic in nature.....IMMIGRATION...and the bill now on the floor for debate....many conservatives consider a this a betrayal of true conservative policy....and the rule of law...much as I do...but when the pushing and shoving is over...and perhaps someone in the nature of Fred Thompson...is deemed to be the choice.....many well see the true nature of conservative politics.....you opine as if they are pandering to the left(perhaps the CNN format)....and we as of yet... are not even in the primary. BD
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06-06-2007, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by bluedog
Yea the same thing the liberals spoke of in France...as the eventual winner..coming from the right disenfranchised himself from the party in power....conservative....the reason there seems to be a split on the conservative side...is very much domestic in nature.....IMMIGRATION...and the bill now on the floor for debate....many conservatives consider a this a betrayal of true conservative policy....and the rule of law...much as I do...but when the pushing and shoving is over...and perhaps someone in the nature of Fred Thompson...is deemed to be the choice.....many well see the true nature of conservative politics.....you opine as if they are pandering to the left(perhaps the CNN format)....and we as of yet... are not even in the primary. BD
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I don't opine about anything for myself, we are way to far away to even be taking this all seriously to tell you the truth. This war could be done by the time the election comes around.
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07-07-2007, 11:38 AM
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cmon philly joke war....still waiting for an inteligent refute on this hthread. you dodged it like the pussy you are. Take all the lies and write your droned shit that says nothing with no facts involved
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07-07-2007, 12:04 PM
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i dare you to refute even 7 of the lies listed on this thread. you can write a cute blow hard long psuedo intellect poem with no basis of fact or reality but you cannot refute the numerous fact posted by many god posters on this thread so you wanked out. silly philly
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07-07-2007, 12:09 PM
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read this thread forum. philly war just did and look at his last post. he then signed off because you can see no one can deny the truth written here. not one of you can refute this thread. you can write any bs but no one can do it. the right cowers and hides from this thread. read through and face it.
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07-07-2007, 02:23 PM
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I haven't found a single instance of Bush lied.
It was difficult to even get the idiots to even list a lie and then it was mostly accusations of those around Bush who "lied".
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07-07-2007, 03:52 PM
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We been through this a billion times only the most deluded of fools still buys into this bullshit.
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Cussing out low class inbreds isnt uninteligent, its honest
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Everything you just said is total bullshit
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