He lied. Weve been this a thousand times. hes a politcan they al lie.

There is no weapons. They never meant anything anyway. There is never a reason for war EVER...take ww2 and cram in your ass sideways..its a bullshit repsonce it never was justified.

War isnt an answer poeple saying it is are liars. Theres no need to proove reality...if you deny reality thats Delusion....thats what this shit is slef delusion.

Here's the full story Gix......since 1980 and 27 years of Republican Reaganomics which involved DE-regulating corporations, coupled with insane trade practices and imbalances, corporate greed and hostile corporate take overs, the billion dollar SAVINGS and LOAN rip-offs!

The replacement of factory jobs with pensions and medical benefits of which were re-placed by low paying service sector jobs w/o pensions and good benefits. Oh yeah, we can't forget Clinton's support of NAFTA, CATO, WTO, further eroding and dismantling the American middle class.

Before Reagan rode into the W.H., America was not a debtor nation! America had the strongest manufacturing base in the world, prior to 1980----we use to make Things, America had sane trade policies---but not anymore!

Prior to Reagan UN-regulating Corporations! Corporations were charged with behaving and conducting business that benefited society as a whole not just the RICHEST OF THE FEWEST AMONG US! By Reagan DE-regulating corporations and capitalism......we now see predatory capitalism of which only the powerfully and wealthy elite only care about how soon they can apply billionaire status beside their names----SCREW THE MIDDLE CLASS AND SCREW AMERICA AT LARGE!

The type of America we all find ourselves in today are the results of 27 years of Robber Baron Republican economic policies and un-adulterated GREED.

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This is the SAME documentation that the Democrats were using to actually RALLY for the same war you claim Bush lied about ...

Even Kerry was voting for the war based on the SAME documentation .....

..... before he voted against it!

The difference is that politicians like Kerry have NO RESOLVE and fortitude in any decision they make.

They didn't mind changing with their lack of commitment.

The ONLY reason they changed their mind was to be against the Republican consensus.

Look at what Bush did ...

The Dem's cried because there was NO health care for the elderly ...
Bush tried to fix it.

The Dem's cried because kids were being left behind
Bush tried to fix it.

The Dem's were crying because the school system was broke
Bush tried to fix it (by letting Teddy *HICK* Kennedy help write the fixes)

The Dem's were crying because the poor people in New Orleans needed help.
Bush tried to fix it.

One of the MAIN REASONS the Dem's don't like Bush
is because as a so called Conservative he did MORE to fix the fiscally Liberal Agenda that has been the foundation of the Democratic platform!

The Dem's cried and he did the best he could ...

He reached across the isle to try making the Dem's happy little campers!

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And.... this is justification for producing patently false intelligence and disseminating it to the congress in a rushed vote to go to war?

The REAL reason folks changed their minds was that they found out AFTER the vote that nearly EVERYTHING the administration had for their case for war WAS A LIE.

The rest of your post is similarly skewed. You can't change the facts no matter how hard you bluster, Joe. The time line is well known now with the facts and documents to support it.

As for Bush's "attempts"... his focus was legacy, contributors and religious base not the actual welfare of the American people. Not to side track this too far, but are you saying that as long as someone tries it doesn't matter that it was poorly planned, pandered to special interests, inadequately funded and of dubious merit, those that initially wanted something done don't have a right to bitch that the wrong solution was implemented.

If I have an employee, and civil servants are, and they screwing something up repeatedly, I either tell them to get it right, or I fire them.

It is an established fact that Bush and company received reports from our own intelligence agencies that were in direct opposition to what the Cheney cabal would tell the republican led congress. And yet the 400 page work of frighten-the-masses-fiction used to justify a vote on going to war, was not received by most members in time to read it much less verify it's content before the unprecedented (that word comes up a lot with these guys) rush to vote.

So now, as a yellow-bellied politician of any stripe, you realize that this is one of those historic moments in history and you had better be on the right side of it, so they had to accept the only information they had available to them and make their choice. Not having read or fact checked the report Cheney submitted to congress, they made a CNN assessment. Only to find out later that it was COMPLETE BULLSHIT!!!!!!!

This FACT is already part of our nation's permanent history. It's done, settled, found out, exposed. HE LIED, THEY LIED, and now you are LYING

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The sad past is the Teddy Roosevelt (a republican, perhaps their best) busted up these "trusts" because he realized that the most powerful office in country ran a distant second in power to the big three industrialist of the time. He gave back control of the country to the PEOPLE and we need someone to re-bust the corps to give middle americans what he called the "square-deal." He was also the first environmental president... today he would be would be labeled with the scarlet "L" as a liberal. He was a great man...

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The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.

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Enron is a perfect example of how deregulation allows for MASSIVE GREED and allows those who control the basics needs of this country to dangle it over the heads of the middle class and then charge them out the ass to lower the carrot.

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Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

— Benjamin Franklin

The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.

John Adams from the " Treaty of Tripoly, article 11

The man started the afe of American imperialism with the Spanish American war. His influnce as president and on Presidents led to man wars of agression for economics. What he said in office was good ideas but like all other politicans he was a two faced liar.

By that logic, the balanced budget under Clinton working with a strong republican congress never would have happened. This is FAILED logic.

just turn off the radio and think for yourself for a change. do your own research. It's all out there. Know your history, recent and long past. Makes it easier to spot the BS flung by the infotainment industry.

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There are two kinds of people in this world.......those that react to the facts as they are...or as they perceive them to be....and those that react to the facts as they wish they were....and twist the evidence to match the wish.....If you go into an investigation with preformed conclusion...the only evidence that you will consider is that which points toward that conclusion.....and exclude all else...even evidence that points away form that conclusion....this is clear and obviously the case as the DNC....highlights only that which points in the direction of quilt...while ignoring the evidence that acquits....like the English report concerning the evidence presented by Mr. Yellow Cake...which clearly stated that the report...by MR. Wilson...lead the president to believe that Saddam was still looking for Nukes..and that the Italian report had not been debunked at the time of the state of the union address....and the president presented the evidence that he had in good faith.......they(DNC) will keep looking at any and evidence but only consider that which points in one direction....as they want so much to show the world they were right...when in fact all the evidence....at best points to a mistake...and at worst..the weapons of mass destruction...are still at large...and in the hands of a terrorist state(Syria).....they wish to hang this president so bad...they totally ignore the real problem before them..... the 1000 pound Gorilla.....TERRORISM. BD

LOL.... ok, let me get this straight, once again the apologists are claiming ignorance and a bad document that wasn't their fault?

SO you are willing to use bad information delivered to Bush as an excuse for making questionable decisions, but you have to find some other reason why the folks in congress that have changed their minds. Do you not see the fallacy here? Speaking of spinning things... come on!

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