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Old 06-05-2007, 01:38 AM
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Gix, gix, gix... everyone take a look.... this is what happens when you don't know your history.

Gix, the cold war was rooted in the premise of mutually assured destruction. the ability of both parties to assure complete annihilation of the other before either is destroyed.

We have treaties that have been signed that forbid missile defense for the very reason that it removes mutually assured destruction safeguards. If Russia was developing the same, we would be posturing militarily, precisely because it would allow Russia to attack us without fear of reprisal.

Now, I don't expect you to understand this bit, it requires a sense of honor and a base of morals, but... treaties are signed in good faith that both parties will adhere to the terms negotiated.

I believe in the lead by example line of thinking. If you want others to maintain the agreements with you, you had damn well go out of your way to show that you will do the same. Otherwise you have lost the important moral high-ground.

I think I can see gix's and diz's eyes glazing over. lmao
no the cold war was not rooted in the assured mutal destruction. The cold war stemmed out of ww2 and the fight between ideology's. we used the bomb in 1945 and effectivily ended the war..... but immdediatly after that the cold war began.... The soviet Union did not detonate there first bomb till 1949......

please read the wikipedia cold war excerpt where it defines when the cold war started.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_war

The Cold War was the period of conflict, tension and competition between the United States and the Soviet Union and their respective allies from the mid-1940s until the early 1990s. Throughout the period, the rivalry between the two superpowers was played out in multiple arenas: military coalitions; ideology, psychology, and espionage; military, industrial, and technological developments, including the space race; costly defense spending; a massive conventional and nuclear arms race; and many proxy wars.



Now if the cold war started in the mid 1940's... which means 1945. And the soviet union did not detonate till 1949...... then your following statement...

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Gix, the cold war was rooted in the premise of mutually assured destruction. the ability of both parties to assure complete annihilation of the other before either is destroyed.


is wrong.... because the root of the cold war was the power and land grab and battle of ideology's....For there to have been the MAD... both parties would of had to of been armed with the weapons....

ok ok i know what you are going to bring up.... the Frisch-Peierls memorandum. But this was based on assumption and maybee even allitle bit of science fiction and allitle bit of luck.. Noone could imagine what the A-bomb would bring until it was let out of the box... And even if lets say there was the policy of MAD or the ground work for it in 1940 by these gentlmen.... somebody must of forgoten to tell the Russians....

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anyway i had a question that i always wanted to ask you. But never found the ripe opertunity to do so....... What is it you ask?..... well it's simple..

Do you like Apples........
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