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Old 03-04-2007, 04:11 PM
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Michael Moore never lived in Flint Michigan.

He comes from an upper middle class family.
According to his biography Moore was born in Flint, Michigan and grew up in the city of Davison a neighboring city of Flint and home to many General Motors factories, where his mother was a secretary, and both his father and grandfather were auto workers. His uncle was one of the founders of the United Automobile Workers labor union and participated in the famous Flint Sit-Down Strike.

That doesn't sound too upper-middle class to me.
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Old 03-04-2007, 04:34 PM
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That is according to what he wants known.

He never resided in Flint. The hospital he was delivered at might well have been in Flint, but that is about the extent of it.

Somehow people seem to think that if you work at an auto factory you are somehow poor. The fact is that Michael Moore's family put ALL of their children {except Michael who flunked out} through college and lived in an upper middle class neighborhood.

You do know that auto workers are the highest paid workers in the country?

$60/hr is a pretty good living.
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Old 03-04-2007, 04:36 PM
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Dear dipshit... I have never defended any pop media faux news bullshit. There is information within there that is correct and varifiable. So I have defended certain things contained in those works.
Actually you use them like butter on bread as long as you THINK they serve your agenda. Case in point: Jihad vs. Neo-con
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I leave it to morons like you to make those leaps of logic. Oh, Okham defended that one fact in MM's movie, he must be president of the fan club and believes everything MM says.
It's really rather entertaining to watch rats jump ship when they finally realize it's sinking.

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Dom says he is aligned with the right but does not sit with those that advocate the murder of abortion doctors. By your logic, there is no difference.

Told ya that post would haunt you Dom.
Talk about posts that haunt.. when ever are you going to destroy the points Dom and I made regarding your silly nightmare doc-u-drama? You said "I will gladly take you to task" on those points THREE DAYS AGO, and just as Dom said would happen, all you delivered was a lot more name calling, foul language and patting yourself on the back.

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So which is it Gix, is Dom a hypocrite, or might you have made an illogical conclusion?
No, I believe you're the blowhard hypocrite. By the way, where are all your cheerleaders today? I didn't think you came out without them.
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Old 03-04-2007, 04:40 PM
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That is according to what he wants known.

He never resided in Flint. The hospital he was delivered at might well have been in Flint, but that is about the extent of it.

Somehow people seem to think that if you work at an auto factory you are somehow poor. The fact is that Michael Moore's family put ALL of their children {except Michael who flunked out} through college and lived in an upper middle class neighborhood.

You do know that auto workers are the highest paid workers in the country?

$60/hr is a pretty good living.
Wow.. where'd you hear they made $60 an hour? I have family and friends that worked for years at th GM plant here in OKC and none of them made that kind of money.
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Old 03-04-2007, 04:46 PM
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Dom says he is aligned with the right but does not sit with those that advocate the murder of abortion doctors. By your logic, there is no difference.

Told ya that post would haunt you Dom.

So which is it Gix, is Dom a hypocrite, or might you have made an illogical conclusion?
You make no sense. The post did not come back to haunt me because you are making no sense even now. It would only make me a hypocrite if every person on the right aligned themselves with those who advocate teh murder of abortion doctors. Your logic (or lack thereof) is astounding to say the least.

Talk about desperate to make a point. You are so desperate you come up with idiotic things like this to say. I am still waiting for you to back up your statement about me being part of the group which advocates the murder of abortion doctors . . . and I am sure I will be waiting for a long time. Seriously, think it out first. You will have to try much harder than that.

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Old 03-04-2007, 04:47 PM
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Only in your mind . . . and those of the Okhamites.
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Old 03-04-2007, 05:25 PM
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Only in your mind . . . and those of the Okhamites.
yeah... but honestly, isn't that enough? Okhamites BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH Does that mean there are Sam-oans and Crow-ations too?

Kinda makes ya wonder though... why there isn't anyone lining up next to you. Where are the Dom-inators? The Dizzyannas? The Gix-alons. This is starting to sound like Dr Suess.

Look, it's not my fault you guys can't employ critical thinking or deductive reasoning or reign in your knee jer reactions. You make it incredibly easy to blow holes in your "lines of thinking\reasoning" and I just don't get it. Seems like you would give up or change tactics. Oh wait... that's right, your fearless leader makes you repeat the mantra "Stay the Course" everyday, right?

But when you make erroneous assumptions like;
He hates the president so he must have loved Clinton
He defends facts about 9-11 so he must belong to the Alex Jones, Micheal Moore fan clubs
No significant WMD have been found in any of the (albeit extremely vague) locations that the Admin said they were, so the Iraqis must have hidden them in the desert somewhere. Because everyone knows, if you wanna keep chemical and biological weapons in usable condition, you bury them in the desert.
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Old 03-04-2007, 06:56 PM
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Dear dipshit... I have never defended any pop media faux news bullshit. There is information within there that is correct and varifiable. So I have defended certain things contained in those works.

I leave it to morons like you to make those leaps of logic. Oh, Okham defended that one fact in MM's movie, he must be president of the fan club and believes everything MM says.

Dom says he is aligned with the right but does not sit with those that advocate the murder of abortion doctors. By your logic, there is no difference.

Told ya that post would haunt you Dom.

So which is it Gix, is Dom a hypocrite, or might you have made an illogical conclusion?
UGH!!! YOU ARE UTTERLY PREVARICATING!!!
You being the biggest and honorary prevaricator of this forum!
You came on this thread pissing and moaning...
You're post absolutely shows the sore loser in you, especially resorting to be above it all while you've absolutely posted and lectured moorehead logic.
Nope...there is no doubt.
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Old 03-04-2007, 07:01 PM
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THE hunter has become the hunted. Michael Moore, the celebrated left-wing film-maker, has become the unwilling subject of a new documentary that raises damaging questions about the credibility of his work.

The director and star of successful documentaries such as Roger & Me, Bowling for Columbine and Fahrenheit 9/11, Moore has repeatedly been accused by his right-wing enemies of distorting or manipulating the material in his films. On his website he dismisses his critics as “wacko attackos”.

Yet the latest assault on Moore’s film-making techniques has come from an unexpected quarter. In Manufacturing Dissent, a documentary to be shown for the first time at a Texas film festival on Saturday, a pair of left-wing Canadian film-makers take Moore to task for what they describe as a disturbing pattern of fact-fudging and misrepresentation.

“When we started this project we hoped to have done a documentary that celebrated Michael Moore. We were admirers and fans,” said Debbie Melnyk, who made the film with her husband, Rick Caine. “Then we found out certain facts about his documentaries that we hadn’t known before. We ended up very disappointed and disillusioned.”

Melnyk and Caine are best known for their previous documentary Citizen Black, about Conrad Black, the Canadian-born former proprietor of The Daily Telegraph. Last week both of them acknowledged an important debt to Moore for popularising the documentary genre.

Yet when Caine and Melnyk began to follow him as part of their own documentary, their efforts to interview him met with the same kind of obstruction, denial and, ultimately, physical ejection that Moore had suffered when he tried to track down Roger Smith, the former chief executive of General Motors, for his first film, Roger & Me.

It was in Flint, Michigan, Moore’s former home town, that Caine and Melnyk made the first discovery that they say rocked their confidence in his approach. Roger & Me was a hugely successful account of what Moore portrayed as a fruitless task to force Smith to answer questions about GM’s policies in closing the car manufacturing plants that had long been Flint’s economic lifeline.

Caine and Melnyk claim that Moore interviewed Smith on camera twice. But the scenes were left on the cutting room floor, apparently for greater dramatic effect.

Manufacturing Dissent includes a long catalogue of alleged exaggerations or distortions in several of Moore’s films. In Bowling for Columbine, a scathing indictment of US gun violence, Moore visited Toronto to show parts of the city that were supposedly so free of crime everyone left their front doors unlocked.

“In the film, Michael makes it look as though 100% of the doors were unlocked, but his local producer told us it was really only 40%,” said Caine.

Caine and Melnyk said they had hoped to interview Moore about his views on how much editing was acceptable before a factual documentary turned into misleading propaganda.

“We had met him at a premiere of the Columbine film in Toronto, and he said, ‘Oh yes, talk to my people and they’ll set something up’,” said Caine. “We then called his people and they said he’s not doing any more interviews in Toronto. We had his e-mail, we sent a letter to his lawyers, we had his phone number in New York. But each time he said no.”

Then Caine and Melnyk began to run into open hostility. Eventually, in a scene that might have come from Roger & Me, they were bundled out of an event at Kent State University, where Moore’s sister, Anne, knocked aside Caine’s camera.

Moore is reportedly editing his next film, Sicko, about the US healthcare system, and a spokesman said he had no comment on Manufacturing Dissent. On his website he dismissed critics of Bowling for Columbine as “lying liars” and claimed that “organised groups [are] going full blast trying to discredit me”.

Yet Caine and Melnyk insist they should not be confused with the right-wing hordes who want to damage Moore.

“If you have to sell out your values and principles to get at a greater truth, where does that leave you?” said Melnyk.

“If we think it’s wrong for the government to lie and manipulate, how do we think that [left-wingers] doing it is the solution?”
I do have such faith in mankind
ALL YOU MOOREHEADS HAVE BEEN SCAMMED!!!!
The left already revealed their colors while they vote against 2200 troops...
I'm getting fat on all this candy, and the show is only just begun!
HAHAHAHAH lolOLOLOLOLOL HOHOHO whew!
Thats funny
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Old 03-04-2007, 07:35 PM
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All The Bushites Have Been Scamed As Well-----problem Is Ya'all Just Don't Know The Full Scope Yet!!!

But Don't Worry History Is Coming To Set You Free!!!
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