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Old 01-30-2007, 07:58 PM
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Why should the average bias Conservative care whether Air America goes away! Why does it bother Conservatives whether Air America stays or goes......You Don't listen to the Radio Station so why waste your time!

Should Air America close down shop.....just because a Conservative hope they will? Why should a Liberal Progressive Radio station quit just b/c a Conservative hopes they will do so.

Conservative can either listen to Rush or some other right wing fringe radio stations that spews the Bush-Neo Con/Conservative talking point. Once again "average Conservatives" why give a dam? America is a Nation of Freedom of choice after all-----listen to whom you want too!

Yes, Air America filed bankruptcy to re-organize...name a company in America that has not filed for bankruptcy to re-organize---it's the American Way.

Could it be one of the reasons Air America decided to File for Bankruptcy b/c corporate America decided to use Corporate Collusion not to avertise their products with Air America because these Corporations did not agree with Air America's politics!

Here's a complete list of the companies boycotting Air America. Some of the usual suspects (US Navy likes sending their boys to fight for fictitious reasons, I guess, and eHarmony is owned by a right-wing fundamentalist).
Surprising ones (HP, BMW, Johnson & Johnson, Heineken, Gillette, Levi's, Paramount, Nissan, Microsoft, Sony, Toys R Us, Travelocity?) Their market seems to be slanted heavily towards consumers that like the idea of there being an alternative to Right Wing radio.

Say hello to Corporate De-regulation where corporation can run rough-shod over any business or individuals that don't play ball with them.

Companies that boycott Air America radio stations
(source: internal ABC Radio Networks memo facsimile 10/25/06
ABC Radio contact: Nicole Loperena (212) 735-1138

(http://mediamatters.org/static/image...061031-lg.jpg))

Note that some companies were hard to discern, marked by "?"
Allstate American Heart Association Avents? Avon (all brands)
Bank of America Bayer (all products) BMW Motorcycles Carrier Chatham - Capacin Chatham - Gold Bond 1st Aid, Foot Spray Chatham - Phisoderm

Chatham -Selsun Salon Chatham - Ultimate Healing Lotion Cigna Cingular
Clorox Coke Coty Dean Morningstar Foods Dell Denny's Discovery Channel
Eharmony.com Epson Expedia.com Exxon Mobil Farmer's Insurance FedEx

Foot Action Frito-Lay GE Gillette Venus Goodyear Heineken/Amstel Light
Hershey's Hewlett Packard Home Depot Hormel Hyatt Interstate Batteries
JC Penney Johnson & Johnson (all brands) Kohl's Kraft Foods (all brands)
Levi's Masterfoods (all brands) McDonald's Marial Frontline MGM Michelin
Microsoft Morningstar National Cattleman's Beef Nestle Nissan NYSE
Office Depot Outdoor Life Network

Proctor & Gamble: Bounty, Charmin, Fabreeze, Iams pet foods, Pepto Bismol
Paramount (all) Pepsi Philip Morris Pier 1 Imports Red Lobster Re/Max
REI Sporting Goods Rent-way Robert Half Scharing Plough ESPYs
Schering Plough Tinactin Sherwin Williams Sony State Farm Toys R Us
Travelocity.com True Value United Healthcare US Navy USPS Visa
Walgreens Wal-Mart Welch's Wrigley Wyeln

Gee its kind of hard to compete in the Radio Market/Industry when corporations use blackballing and collusion techniques to purposefully attempt to run you out of business just b/c you don't submit to political views.

See what occurs when you have an un-regulated Free Market and the Fair Market is boycotted and lobbyied out of existence.

BRING BACK THE "FAIRNESS DOCTRINE" AND TELL CORPORATE AMERICA TO GO FUCK THEMSELVES.
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Old 01-30-2007, 08:25 PM
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I for one am happy that Air America will be able to stay on the air and this is why. As long as the liberal left has even a small share of the market, they will not try to control talk radio. My favorite one is Neal Boortz and he says don't take his word for anything, do your own reasearch. I think that the average citizen on either side of the aisle doesn't really know what he thinks until the media tells him. The purpose of talk radio is to make people think and let them make up their own minds.

I think that there is an audience for the Liberal philosphy just as there is for the conservative one.
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Old 01-30-2007, 08:30 PM
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I would like to see the Fairness Doctrine brought back, but adjusted or tweaked to continue to allow Conservative talk radio stay to where it already is, however I want to see Liberal talk radio get the same amount of air time!!!

Rules, Regulations and Format needs to be changed so as not to allow an enitity with the most money to decide what type of talk radio station America has the opportunity to listen to.
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Old 01-30-2007, 08:43 PM
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I would like to see the Fairness Doctrine brought back, but adjusted or tweaked to continue to allow Conservative talk radio stay to where it already is, however I want to see Liberal talk radio get the same amount of air time!!!

Rules, Regulations and Format needs to be changed so as not to allow an enitity with the most money to decide what type of talk radio station America has the opportunity to listen to.
I am not going to agree with this. If you don;t like it, turn the s**t off. That stuff is on there fair a square from the right (I hate Rush and Hannity, et al) and at this point a person like Ted Turner (who sits more left) will have to buy this thing and then keep it going, or make it grow. Maybe these two new guys who bought AA will do that; AA is still trying to find it's feet. It has gotten better but it still has a long ways to go.
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Rules, Regulations and Format needs to be changed so as not to allow an enitity with the most money to decide what type of talk radio station America has the opportunity to listen to.
The "entity" with the most money would be the one that can get advertisers and the ones that get advertisers are the ones who have listeners. I don't listen to AA, and I don't even know what station carries them in my area, but it seems that a change in format would gain more listeners. Maybe not, but there has to be a reason why they don't have more listeners and thus the advertising dollars.

It doesn't really matter one way or another to me if it stays in business or not, as long as it is funded privately I don't see a problem. I do think they should pay back the Boys' and Girls' Club that they stole from though.
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The "entity" with the most money would be the one that can get advertisers and the ones that get advertisers are the ones who have listeners. I don't listen to AA, and I don't even know what station carries them in my area, but it seems that a change in format would gain more listeners. Maybe not, but there has to be a reason why they don't have more listeners and thus the advertising dollars.

It doesn't really matter one way or another to me if it stays in business or not, as long as it is funded privately I don't see a problem. I do think they should pay back the Boys' and Girls' Club that they stole from though.
The station here that carries them just landed the St. Louis Cardinals games contract. I guess someone is doing things right here...in terms of doing business. Cards replacing Al Franken...not a bad trade off maybe
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The station here that carries them just landed the St. Louis Cardinals games contract. I guess someone is doing things right here...in terms of doing business. Cards replacing Al Franken...not a bad trade off maybe
We have never had AA in Houston, Clear Channel owns the airwaves here.
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We have never had AA in Houston, Clear Channel owns the airwaves here.
I bet there is an AA affiliate in Austin though...
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Boy, if that doesn't describe Rush Lamebrain, I don't know what does. If a person knows what he is talking about, Lamebrain will cut the person off. He never appears on other shows because if he doesn't have total control he will look bad. He once appeared on another talk show(TV) and he was made to look so ignorant and political he became livid and wouldn't talk. But, he is still given air time on major corporate radio stations. In fact, in one state, the state political system, using tax payers money, bought ads on his show - now that's political support.
He is still given time on major corporate radio stations because he makes them money. People listen to his show. People obviously do not listen to Air America. I like how you proved the previous poster's point about arrogance and smugness right of the bat by going for the stupid nick name "Lamebrain" nice job.
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Old 01-31-2007, 08:27 AM
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Air America’s ABC Blacklist: The Real Story
by Josh Silver and Robert W. McChesney

This week we learned that some 90 major corporations demanded that their ads be pulled from radio stations that run Air America programming, demonstrating the fundamental challenge facing everyone working to promote critical journalism and a vibrant free press.

First off, let's clarify why this is taking place: The crime isn’t that Air America is partisan. All or most of these firms advertise on politically conservative talk radio programs and/or stations. And the crime isn’t even being “liberal.” Some of these advertisers have moderate or liberal executives who donate to Democratic candidates and are far from rabid conservatives.

So what is the problem? While “liberal” Air America clearly favors big D Democrats, unlike virtually all other programming on commercial radio and television, it gives airtime to reports that are critical of corporations and the powerful politicians they keep in Washington.

This is the heart of the problem: Air America commits a crime called journalism. Almost none of the so-called conservative radio shows or networks do any semblance of actual reporting. They merely pontificate -- repeating talking points that seem to be emailed straight from Karl Rove's laptop.

Air America does its share of pontificating as well, and we leave it to others to compare its integrity to that of Limbaugh and Hannity. But we can say that Air America journalism occasionally focuses on corporate malfeasance. It examines closely the deeply corrupt relationship between corporate power and government officials.

This brand of journalism is found almost nowhere else on the commercial dial. It is brandished as “liberal” because it does not practice journalism as stenography to those in power. This is the same reason that Bill Moyers doesn’t have any of these 90 firms lining up to underwrite his PBS reporting.

So what should we learn from this episode?

1) Commercial media are highly concentrated and corporate advertisers have massive budgets, giving their programming decisions profound implications. According to its own Web site, ABC Radio has more than 4,400 affiliate radio stations reaching nearly 105 million people nationwide. Monopoly media power translates into significant political power and that is dangerous. This is a big deal.

2) Media are concentrated in the hands of massive corporations who are only concerned with profits. Anything that reduces or threatens those profits is eliminated: Investigative journalism because it’s too expensive; government accountability because it pisses off politicians and regulators who dole out billion-dollar policy favors like media “deregulation”; corporate accountability because it angers corporations like the long list that pulled Air America funding. Good journalism can be bad for business.

3) Note the presence of the U.S. Post Office and U.S. Navy on the list of advertisers who have blackballed Air America. It is an outrage that public monies are being deployed to push the ideological agenda of the Bush Administration, or any other administration for that matter. This is one more example of the corruption of governance in Washington, where big money and political power are picking over the bones of democracy.

What’s left? Timid, lapdog journalism that fills our TV screens and radio dials. A newspaper market dominated by a handful of massive firms that suffer the same symptoms. Cheap to produce reality shows, celebrity fluff, regurgitated press releases, spin assessing other spin, and entertainment-as-news that titillates but rarely informs.

Obviously we have to stop the corruption in Washington that allows this “business as usual.” But there are three specific and crucial areas that demand our attention:

First, we must stop further media consolidation. This episode vividly illustrates the peril of monopoly media power. Bush’s man at the Federal Communications Commission is actively moving to lift some of the last remaining ownership limits. The dream scenario for Big Media: eliminate ownership rules so one company can own all the media in a town, and have one newsroom serve all outlets. Heaven for the conglomerate; hell for everyone else. Public backlash stopped a similar move in 2003, and the battle is being fought again at www.stopbigmedia.com.

Second, we must understand that virtually all media – TV, radio, phone – will soon be delivered digitally through the Internet. With increasing speeds, every Web site holds the revolutionary potential to become a TV or radio network, breaking the corporate bottleneck on media access and distribution. But today, cable and phone companies are mounting a full-court press in Washington to privatize the Internet, and make them the gatekeepers to all media – by removing the long-standing principle of “Net Neutrality” on the Internet. Fortunately, public backlash is winning the day (so far), buoyed by the SavetheInternet.com Coalition at www.savetheinternet.com.

Third, noncommercial media, including PBS, NPR and community broadcasters, must be well funded and insulated from political pressure. The United States has the lowest per capita funding of public broadcasting in the industrialized world. Our dysfunctional system has the president appointing partisan operatives to the board that funds PBS and NPR programs. Once again, the public must be engaged, and the public broadcasting system must be overhauled and reinvigorated.

Critical journalism is bad business for media corporations and their advertisers. It is time to engage the public and demand a media system that will inform and protect America, rather than one that is, in the words of Jon Stewart, “hurting us.”

Josh Silver and Robert W. McChesney are co-founders of the nonpartisan media reform organization Free Press.
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