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Old 12-16-2006, 10:30 PM
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Well... I noticed that Michael Moore was brought up for his so called lies that he tells in his docs and books. So I thought I would start a thread were we lefties show the forum just how many times the right makes the truth something they can bend, distort and outright lie. So come my liberal bretheren let's show these programed right-drones how WRONG their favorite leaders are. Doesn't matter who you use as long as you have varifiable data to back up our claim of a lie.

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Here is one to start with... boy they HATE CLINTON (probably because he was such a good president and their boy is two genes away from being a spider monkey)

Hannity again falsely claimed Sudan offered bin Laden to Clinton
On July 20, ABC radio host Sean Hannity thrice repeated the false claim that former President Bill Clinton refused a 1996 offer from Sudan to hand Osama bin Laden over to the United States. Hannity has previously propagated this claim, for which the 9-11 Commission found "no reliable evidence to support."

As Media Matters for America has noted, the false claim originated in an August 11, 2002, article on right-wing news website NewsMax.com that distorted a statement Clinton made on February 15, 2002. While addressing the Long Island Association's annual luncheon, Clinton said he "pleaded with the Saudis" to accept Sudan's offer to hand bin Laden over to Saudi Arabia. Sudan never offered bin Laden to the United States, and Clinton did not admit to the Sudan offer in that speech or anywhere else. (Clinton's statements are posted here).

From the July 20 edition of The Sean Hannity Show:

HANNITY: [W]e've got Bill Clinton on tape admitting he was offered by the Sudan to get Osama bin Laden and he didn't take them. They have the video tape and they ignored it.

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HANNITY: How can you plead with the Saudis to take Osama bin Laden if you don't have Osama bin Laden? How can you say, [imitating Bill Clinton] "At the time, he committed no crime against America, so I couldn't bring him here." How could you even contemplate bringing him here if that offer from the Sudan wasn't real and viable?

Hannity attempted to bolster his assertion that the Sudanese offer of bin Laden was "real and viable" by citing "evidence gathered by the 9-11 Commission":

HANNITY: I think another source of potentially damaging revelations as far as the Clinton people would be concerned, evidence gathered by the 9/11 Commission backing up the allegation that President Clinton refused the offer from the government of Sudan for Osama bin Laden, which is a tape that we have been pointing out to you often.

The "evidence" to which Hannity referred is the 9-11 Commission report's statement: "[F]ormer Sudanese officials claim that Sudan offered to expel Bin Ladin to the United States." But the report immediately continued: "Clinton administration officials deny ever receiving such an offer. We have not found any reliable evidence to support the Sudanese claim." Hannity, therefore, endorsed the claims of former officials of Sudan -- a country that the U.S. Department of State has designated as a state sponsor of terrorism every year since 1993 -- rather than the testimony of Clinton administration officials and the findings of the 9-11 Commission.

While Hannity had asserted on his radio program that the 9-11 Commission had "gathered" evidence "backing up the allegation" that Clinton had refused an offer for bin Laden, two days later -- on FOX News Channel's Hannity & Colmes -- he claimed the commission had "ignored" the allegation. Referring to Clinton's 2002 address to the Long Island Association, Hannity said: "[D]oesn't that seem to validate the idea that the Sudan in fact did offer us bin Laden and we passed on him and that the commission ignored that? Are they not ignoring one of the most important failures of our intelligence leading up to this attack?"

As Media Matters for America has noted, Clinton further refuted the allegation in a June 20 interview on CBS's 60 Minutes. He said: "There was a story which is factually inaccurate that the Sudanese offered bin Laden to us. ... As far as I know, there is not a shred of evidence of that."


I HATE SEAN HANNITY HE IS DANGEROUS FOR AMERICA.... Todd
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Let's hit Hannity again... he's a great dipshit target.

On October 3 an important study was released, analyzing Americans' beliefs about the war in Iraq. Three mistaken impressions were common, and a majority of Americans had at least one of them. They were:

U.S. forces have found weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
There is clear evidence Saddam Hussein worked closely with the Sept. 11 terrorists.
People abroad either backed the U.S., led war or were fairly evenly split between supporting or opposing it.
According to the Program on International Policy Attitudes at the University of Maryland, 60% of Americans believed at least one of these falsehoods. PIPA also correlated these mistaken beliefs with what media outlets they watched. 80% of those who said they relied on Fox News held at least one of these misconceptions, substantially more than from any other media outlet.

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http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/new...aq/6918170.htm

Of course, George Bush is primarily responsible for betraying America's trust. But that 80% of Fox News viewers were misinformed while only 47% of newspaper readers and 23% of those who relied on PBS or NPR demonstrates the responsibility is not his entirely.

Sean Hannity, one of Fox's media stars, must take significant responsibility for betraying the Founders' faith that freedom of the press would lead to informed citizens. To a breath taking degree he combines a contempt for the facts with vicious attacks on those with whom he disagrees. For example:

"Forty-eight hours we're sending our men and women in harm's way, and there's the leader of your party [Tom Daschle] in the United States Senate disgracefully attacking our president at a time we're going to war." (May 18, 2003)

"Here we are in a conflict, in a war, and the President is trying to direct things, and they just can't put aside their partisanship for five minutes and support the troops and support the President, and these are the leaders of the Democratic Party." (April 6, 2003)

We take these two quotations from Al Franken's devastating demolition of Hannity in his Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them, p. 130.

Patriotism, Hannity style, is an on and off kind of thing. During another time when American troops were in harm's way, he had these words of wisdom to say

"Explain to the mothers and fathers of American servicemen that may come home in body bags why their son or daughter have [sic] to give up their life." (April 6, 1999)

See:
http://www.fair.org/extra/0305/kosovo-doves.html

"They haven't prepared for anything in this. And they're running out of weapons to do it. And frankly, I don't think Clinton has the moral authority or ability to fight this war correctly." (May 10, 1999; Al Franken, Lying Liars, p. 129)

The massacres in Kosovo were not only lethal and ongoing - they were meticulously planned. Thousands of people are alive today because of Clinton's successful intervention.

See:
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/12/in...12HAGU.html?th

Hannity is another of the Radical Right chicken hawks who attack people who have served their country in uniform, like Tom Daschle, while themselves carefully avoiding having to wear their country's uniform. Wrapping themselves in the flag seems, for them, an adequate substitute. The English language has a short clear term for people like Hannity: hypocrite.

As any careful reader of this web site will grant, he has lots of company.

Like so many on the Radical Right, Hannity parades his supposed religiosity as evidence of his moral superiority over those he criticizes. But anyone even mildly conversant with Scripture would quickly see the deep contradiction between his hard hearted contempt for the poor and weak, his relentless attacks on the moral failings of those with whom he disagrees and his solicitude for ideological allies like Bob Livingston and Newt Gingrich, who often act even worse than the liberals he attacks. Gingrich has been married twice. He went to his first wife's hospital bed where she was recovering from cancer surgery, to discuss the terms of divorce. Later he dumped his second wife to marry a much younger Congressional aide, with whom he had long had an extramarital affair. Hannity's approval of Gingrich and loud and incessant disapproval of Clinton's far tamer affair with Lewinsky seems just another instance of his hypocrisy.

If Hannity is sincere about his religion, which frankly we doubt perhaps he should meditate on Matthew 25:31-46. But taking those words seriously would alienate himself from his huge salary and the powers of Mammon, which seems really to attract his allegiance.

See:
http://www.therationalradical.com/ta...an-hannity.htm

Seeking a better relationship with Mammon, Hannity is now trying to cash in on the plethora of Right Wing books that have done so much to spread lies and suspicion throughout our country. Hannity's book, Let Freedom Ring is as well researched and accurate as Ann Coulter's work, as careful of truth and integrity as Bill O'Reilly's. In other words, it is a mélange of half truths, misleading statistics, and simple lies. Spinsanity has done a devastating online review, and Al Franken pulverizes it in his Lying Liars.

http://www.deal-with-it.org/clubs/hannity.htm
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I think your thread should be titled "Lies by Fox news"
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I hate right leaning media. That's why I read the Drudge Report.
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I think your thread should be titled "Lies by Fox news"
Have you noticed on thier site how nearly everything falls in the catagory of WAR OR TERROR? Hell, the NBA fight that happened last night can probably be found in WAR ON TERROR with Fox...
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http://www.newshounds.us/

One problem I have with Fox is not their outright lies but their subtle insinuations regarding Democratic candidates and healthcare. Any type of reform or change is reported as "John Doe wants socialized medicine" . Without missing a beat one evening pre election 2004 Hannity went on to describe what he viewed as problems with Canadian socialized Medicine. He then referenced John Kerry. I do not care if you hate John Kerry he never promoted or endorsed any type of socialized medicine.Besides the fact the statement Hannity was making regarding the Canadian healthcare system were incorrect he was then insinuating that was what we would "get" if Kerry were our president.This manipulation was so transparent. Hundreds of sites can report inaccuracies or subtle news distortions but when I can pick up on it so easily on issues that I am knowledgeable about this is disturbing. I have not experienced this degree of bias on any other cable or local news channel.

I have witnessed this repeatedly with Hannity, O'Reilly and others on issues I am certain of. This leads me to not trust them in reporting news I cannot substantiate or validate.

Probably most news has a bias. Politicon made a great point that we should read/watch a variety of sources and make our best decisions.

I do try to watch Fox/CNN a bit each day. I like to scan 2-3 papers and try to find out information from a variety of sources. All news sources will have occaisional inaccuracies secondary to human nature and the nature of journalism. Most will have some bias. I think Fox has set the most dangerous of precedents in journalism today with not just bias but a method of insinuations and manipulations in their reporting.

I am sure I will take a lot of heat from this opinion. It is just my opinion and developed over a long period of time. It began with my experience with
The Sun" tabloid in London and years of being a "news junkie".
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http://www.thesun.co.uk/

This site will link you to the written version of Fox and what funded News Corp. debut of Fox news. When you stand in a London News stand and scan the papers this one definetly jumps out. "The Sun" makes "The Star" and "Globe" tabloids you see while waiting in line to get your groceries look like serious journalism!
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Have you noticed on thier site how nearly everything falls in the catagory of WAR OR TERROR? Hell, the NBA fight that happened last night can probably be found in WAR ON TERROR with Fox...
LOL I missed it . What NBA fight?


The music they play to give you an epinephrine rush while they deliver the latest FOX NEWS ALERT drives me crazy!
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ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF FORMER PRESEDENT CLINTON

After the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, which killed six and injured 1,000; President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

After the 1995 bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed five U.S. military personnel; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

After the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed 19 and injured 200 U.S. military personnel; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

After the 1998 bombing of U.S. embassies in Africa, which killed 224 and injured 5,000; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

After the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole, which killed 17 and injured 39 U.S. sailors; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.


SO MANY AMERICAN LIVES AND NO RESPONCE FROM CLINTON! THANK GOD FOR PRESEDENT BUSH!

CLINTON: No, no. I authorized the CIA to get groups together to try to kill him.

The CIA, which was run by George Tenet, that President Bush gave the Medal of Freedom to, he said, "He did a good job setting up all these counterterrorism things."

The country never had a comprehensive anti-terror operation until I came there.

Now, if you want to criticize me for one thing, you can criticize me for this: After the Cole, I had battle plans drawn to go into Afghanistan, overthrow the Taliban, and launch a full-scale attack search for bin Laden.

But we needed basing rights in Uzbekistan, which we got after 9/11.

The CIA and the FBI refused to certify that bin Laden was responsible while I was there. They refused to certify. So that meant I would've had to send a few hundred Special Forces in helicopters and refuel at night.

Even the 9/11 Commission didn't do that. Now, the 9/11 Commission was a political document, too. All I'm asking is, anybody who wants to say I didn't do enough, you read Richard Clarke's book.

""The entire military was against sending Special Forces in to Afghanistan and refueling by helicopter. And no one thought we could do it otherwise, because we could not get the CIA and the FBI to certify that Al Qaeda was responsible while I was president.""

IF YOU ARE THE COMMANDER AND CHEIF AND THE MILITARY, FBI, OR CIA, WILL NOT HELP YOU GET RID OF WHAT YOU KNOW IS A THREAT TO NATIONAL SECURITY THEN YOU FIRE THE GENERAL OR THAT DIRECTOR AND FIND SOMEONE THAT WILL. IT IS NO EXCUSE FOR A LACK OF AGGRESSION AGENSTS TERROR! YOU CANT SAY TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE I KNOW WHERE OSAMA WAS I HAD HIS LOCATION BUT SOMEONE DIDNT AGREE WITH ME SO I JUST STAYED PUT LIKE I DID IN ALL OTHER TERRORIST ACTIVITY!

THERE YOU GO LIBERALS! TRUTHS OF THE RIGHT SIDED MEDIA!
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