>>>I don't know what any of that means other than you don't usually have to pay people if you already have their support. So anybody NOT on that list was probably on board to begin with.

with housing, its not one problm, and if it were, you must retreat back to when rampant speculation entered the picture. i havent seen a decently built house built after 1932. so lets reduce the size of the lumber, lets reduce the codes for grounding, and lest say we reduce the wire size for the electrical, to the point where it can fail. then lets fuck up the plumbing to. we'll go from cast iron drains, to this plastic shit that degrades fast with time. and lets use plastic, instead of copper. and the hell with brazing. we'll not only stop using silver solder, we'll just use tin. if it dont flow well with the flux, who gives a shit! so lets reduce our building codes, and allow the use of a fucking two by six, for a floor joist 13 and a half feet long. regardless of what tree it was made out of. HEY LOOKY, ITS A HOUSE! AND IT AINT FALLEN DOWN YET! IT MUST BE WORTH ALOT OF MONEY, CAUSE PEOPLE LIVE IN IT! so for a fucking 45k, i can build a 280k house on your secured lot, inside of five months. unless youd rather one that will fall down in a strong wind that is.

Not in favor of more regulation. But proper regulation. All this stuff happens when the regulators fall asleep at the wheel. The regulations and laws are already in place. How about we try something new and novel? How about we try and enforce the regulations and laws that are already on the books? Seems to be a bit easier than adding more and more laws and regulations that only hinder the law abiding business people.

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Ths biggest problem most "debators" from EITHER side has is that they are simply unable to see past their own myopic view of what any given "truth" is. As with most, you are so intent on blame...you are completely unable to see that both sides are at fault.....that's Mulp's main problem too

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This was all heavily supported by the Reagan conservatives. It strains belief that internet creeps would somehow come back and try to blame democrats for this - even though there isn't much difference between them on this type of matter.

Both sides did it, for differing reasons perhaps, but the same result.

But in the end, the American public did it to themselves. Just look at the success of shows like "Flip this house".

Still don't hear you contesting it.

You lose.

Agreed.

Unfortunately, the way things are set up today, the regulators are mostly under the Executive Branch. For instance, Christopher Cox.

So, a guy like Bushie gets in there, he says, "Alberto, just put those federal housing discrimination cases at the bottom of the pile, and make sure they stay there", and voila.... no enforcement.

On the other hand, he says to Mueller, "make sure you go after those little old ladies up in Oregon, and put a few of 'em away to show 'em we mean business", and voila... heavy-handed enforcement.

So, it occurs to me, that ultimately, it is Congress who is mostly to blame in all this, since

a) they write the laws
b) they're SUPPOSED to oversee the President, and
c) they have THEMSELVES fallen down on the job when things like subpoenas get ignored, and then they let the prez get away with sending people up to the hill who "don't" testify under oath -

You know, so, my view is, CLEAN HOUSE. Vote each and every one of those incuments out of office. They've screwed up, BADLY. ALL of 'em!!!

I'm going to vote AGAINST all incumbents for the next four years, regardless of party.

Laughing, still don't see you understanding anything but your own myopic view

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It sounds to me like someone is in denial that all potential candidates are vetted so only those willing to carry on the status quo make it to that point. The American public has proven itself delinquent to Constitutional democracy (as this site more than proves). Water has found its lowest level and the system has structured itself to preclude any attempts to reform it whether that be politically or economically or both. People are pigs and any system they invent will succumb to decadence and corruption.