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09-18-2008, 09:59 AM
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The Washington Post...The Ugly New McCain
Ad from the The Washington Post
The Ugly New McCain
By Richard Cohen
Wednesday, September 17, 2008;
Following his loss to George W. Bush in the 2000 South Carolina primary, John McCain did something extraordinary: He confessed to lying about how he felt about the Confederate battle flag, which he actually abhorred. "I broke my promise to always tell the truth," McCain said. Now he has broken that promise so completely that the John McCain of old is unrecognizable. He has become the sort of politician he once despised.
The precise moment of McCain's abasement came, would you believe, not at some news conference or on one of the Sunday shows but on "The View," the daytime TV show created by Barbara Walters. Last week, one of the co-hosts, Joy Behar, took McCain to task for some of the ads his campaign has been running. One deliberately mischaracterized what Barack Obama had said about putting lipstick on a pig -- an Americanism that McCain himself has used. The other asserted that Obama supported teaching sex education to kindergarteners.
"We know that those two ads are untrue," Behar said. "They are lies."
Freeze. Close in on McCain. This was the moment. He has largely been avoiding the press. The Straight Talk Express is now just a brand, an ad slogan like "Home Cooking" or "We Will Not Be Undersold." Until then, it was possible for McCain to say that he had not really known about the ads, that the formulation "I approve this message" was just boilerplate. But he didn't.
"Actually, they are not lies," he said.
Actually, they are.
McCain has turned ugly. His dishonesty would be unacceptable in any politician, but McCain has always set his own bar higher than most. He has contempt for most of his colleagues for that very reason: They lie. He tells the truth. He internalizes the code of the McCains -- his grandfather, his father: both admirals of the shining sea. He serves his country differently, that's all -- but just as honorably. No more, though.
I am one of the journalists accused over the years of being in the tank for McCain. Guilty. Those doing the accusing usually attributed my feelings to McCain being accessible. This is the journalist-as-puppy school of thought: Give us a treat, and we will leap into a politician's lap.
Not so. What impressed me most about McCain was the effect he had on his audiences, particularly young people. When he talked about service to a cause greater than oneself, he struck a chord. He expressed his message in words, but he packaged it in the McCain story -- that man, beaten to a pulp, who chose honor over freedom. This had nothing to do with access. It had to do with integrity.
McCain has soiled all that. His opportunistic and irresponsible choice of Sarah Palin as his political heir -- the person in whose hands he would leave the country -- is a form of personal treason, a betrayal of all he once stood for. Palin, no matter what her other attributes, is shockingly unprepared to become president. McCain knows that. He means to win, which is all right; he means to win at all costs, which is not.
At a forum last week at Columbia University, McCain said, "But right now we have to restore trust and confidence in government." This was always the promise of John McCain, the single best reason to vote for him. America has been cheated on too many times -- the lies of Vietnam and Watergate and Iraq. So many lies. Who believes that in Afghanistan last month, only five civilians were killed by the American military in an airstrike, instead of the approximately 90 claimed by the Afghan government? Not me. I first gave up on the military during Vietnam and then again when it covered up the death of Pat Tillman, the Army Ranger and former NFL player who was killed in 2004 by friendly fire.
McCain was going to fix all that. He was going to look the American people in the eyes and say, not me. I will not lie to you. I am John McCain, son and grandson of admirals. I tell the truth.
But Joy Behar knew better. And so McCain lied about his lying and maybe thinks that if he wins the election, he can -- as he did in South Carolina -- renounce who he was and what he did and resume his old persona. It won't work. Karl Marx got one thing right -- what he said about history repeating itself. Once is tragedy, a second time is farce. John McCain is both.
cohenr@washpost.com
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09-18-2008, 10:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by orwell1984
Ad from the The Washington Post
The Ugly New McCain
By Richard Cohen
Wednesday, September 17, 2008;
Following his loss to George W. Bush in the 2000 South Carolina primary, John McCain did something extraordinary: He confessed to lying about how he felt about the Confederate battle flag, which he actually abhorred. "I broke my promise to always tell the truth," McCain said. Now he has broken that promise so completely that the John McCain of old is unrecognizable. He has become the sort of politician he once despised.
The precise moment of McCain's abasement came, would you believe, not at some news conference or on one of the Sunday shows but on "The View," the daytime TV show created by Barbara Walters. Last week, one of the co-hosts, Joy Behar, took McCain to task for some of the ads his campaign has been running. One deliberately mischaracterized what Barack Obama had said about putting lipstick on a pig -- an Americanism that McCain himself has used. The other asserted that Obama supported teaching sex education to kindergarteners.
"We know that those two ads are untrue," Behar said. "They are lies."
Freeze. Close in on McCain. This was the moment. He has largely been avoiding the press. The Straight Talk Express is now just a brand, an ad slogan like "Home Cooking" or "We Will Not Be Undersold." Until then, it was possible for McCain to say that he had not really known about the ads, that the formulation "I approve this message" was just boilerplate. But he didn't.
"Actually, they are not lies," he said.
Actually, they are.
McCain has turned ugly. His dishonesty would be unacceptable in any politician, but McCain has always set his own bar higher than most. He has contempt for most of his colleagues for that very reason: They lie. He tells the truth. He internalizes the code of the McCains -- his grandfather, his father: both admirals of the shining sea. He serves his country differently, that's all -- but just as honorably. No more, though.
I am one of the journalists accused over the years of being in the tank for McCain. Guilty. Those doing the accusing usually attributed my feelings to McCain being accessible. This is the journalist-as-puppy school of thought: Give us a treat, and we will leap into a politician's lap.
Not so. What impressed me most about McCain was the effect he had on his audiences, particularly young people. When he talked about service to a cause greater than oneself, he struck a chord. He expressed his message in words, but he packaged it in the McCain story -- that man, beaten to a pulp, who chose honor over freedom. This had nothing to do with access. It had to do with integrity.
McCain has soiled all that. His opportunistic and irresponsible choice of Sarah Palin as his political heir -- the person in whose hands he would leave the country -- is a form of personal treason, a betrayal of all he once stood for. Palin, no matter what her other attributes, is shockingly unprepared to become president. McCain knows that. He means to win, which is all right; he means to win at all costs, which is not.
At a forum last week at Columbia University, McCain said, "But right now we have to restore trust and confidence in government." This was always the promise of John McCain, the single best reason to vote for him. America has been cheated on too many times -- the lies of Vietnam and Watergate and Iraq. So many lies. Who believes that in Afghanistan last month, only five civilians were killed by the American military in an airstrike, instead of the approximately 90 claimed by the Afghan government? Not me. I first gave up on the military during Vietnam and then again when it covered up the death of Pat Tillman, the Army Ranger and former NFL player who was killed in 2004 by friendly fire.
McCain was going to fix all that. He was going to look the American people in the eyes and say, not me. I will not lie to you. I am John McCain, son and grandson of admirals. I tell the truth.
But Joy Behar knew better. And so McCain lied about his lying and maybe thinks that if he wins the election, he can -- as he did in South Carolina -- renounce who he was and what he did and resume his old persona. It won't work. Karl Marx got one thing right -- what he said about history repeating itself. Once is tragedy, a second time is farce. John McCain is both.
cohenr@washpost.com
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Actually McCains ad was not a lie. Maybe a little dramatic and stretched the truth a bit but it was not a lie. Obama most assuredly was portraying Palin as a pig. Obama so much as said so in interviews he gave after the gaff. He did not cover his tracks well.
Look politicians often say what they think we want to hear. The have since the very first days of organized government. The biggest thing to look at is actions. McCain has done more of what he said he would do than Obama. Agree or disagree, at least he almost always does what he says and believes. I cannot say the same for Obama.
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09-18-2008, 10:13 AM
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Nice piece...no one will care though. It's just the liberal media doing a job on McCain. That is what they will say.
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09-18-2008, 10:20 AM
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Yawn;
"I had an uncle who was part of the first American troops to go into Auschwitz and liberate the concentration camps. The story in our family was that when he came home, he just went up into the attic and he didn't leave the house for six months," stated Obama, during what was billed as an important speech on veterans. - LIE
Obama stated that U.S. military Arabic translators in Iraq are needed in Afghanistan.
"We only have a certain number of them and if they are all in Iraq, then it's harder for us to use them in Afghanistan," stated Obama.
Of course, Obama did not know that Afghans don't speak Arabic.
Moron and liar
"So the only nuclear legislation that I've passed has been to make sure that the nuclear industry has to disclose whatever they emit anything that might be considered radioactive and share that with local and state communities. I just did that last year," stated Obama in Iowa in 2007.
LIE
Standard Disclaimer: McCain IS a shameless liar - he has a series of ads running in Florida touting his work on behalf of illegal aliens, which is true - but contrast that with his Romney debate. McCain is pro-illegal, as is Obama - two scumbags unfit to serve.
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09-18-2008, 10:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncensored2008
Yawn;
"I had an uncle who was part of the first American troops to go into Auschwitz and liberate the concentration camps. The story in our family was that when he came home, he just went up into the attic and he didn't leave the house for six months," stated Obama, during what was billed as an important speech on veterans. - LIE
Obama stated that U.S. military Arabic translators in Iraq are needed in Afghanistan.
"We only have a certain number of them and if they are all in Iraq, then it's harder for us to use them in Afghanistan," stated Obama.
Of course, Obama did not know that Afghans don't speak Arabic.
Moron and liar
"So the only nuclear legislation that I've passed has been to make sure that the nuclear industry has to disclose whatever they emit anything that might be considered radioactive and share that with local and state communities. I just did that last year," stated Obama in Iowa in 2007.
LIE
Standard Disclaimer: McCain IS a shameless liar - he has a series of ads running in Florida touting his work on behalf of illegal aliens, which is true - but contrast that with his Romney debate. McCain is pro-illegal, as is Obama - two scumbags unfit to serve.
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Can I get me sum truth tellin statesmen here?
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09-18-2008, 10:23 AM
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This is about McCain!
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09-18-2008, 10:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by reccles44
Can I get me sum truth tellin statesmen here?
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Neither of these guys are statesman.
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09-18-2008, 10:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by reccles44
Can I get me sum truth tellin statesmen here?
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Bob Barr? (Though I still am uneasy with his GOP background.)
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09-18-2008, 10:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sachem
This is about McCain!
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YEAH! Don't be exposing the same behavior in Barry the Messiah®
(Oh, and pass the Koolaide!)
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09-18-2008, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Uncensored2008
YEAH! Don't be exposing the same behavior in Barry the Messiah®
(Oh, and pass the Koolaide!)
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Respond to the allegations about McCain, don't try to deflect....
Keep your Koolaide, I never touch the stuff.
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