 |
|
09-17-2008, 08:09 PM
|
 |
Machiavelli Incarnate
|
|
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Oregon
Posts: 6,847
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by LCOF
If you were wondering why we have no benefit of Iraqi Oil, if you were wondering why there was no pressure to bear on Iraqis to assist in paying for reconstruction, and the war. If you're inclined to blame this on Bush, then you're wrong.
Libs Kerry, Shumer, and McCaskill, should be made to explain why they imposed their directives.
No Oil for Blood |
Are you sure about the details and slant of your article? There are hundreds of contracts being awarded and Shell, Exxon and BP are signing agreements right now. Revenues that would be paid for the reconstruction would come from Iraq and not the first company that gets a contract. This is the first of hundreds of contracts and your title is misleading.
In addition the letter the three senators wrote was just to encourage a reform from the Saddam policy that did not allow revenue sharing among the various sects.
You might want to read a little further than National Review on this. Of the hundreds of contracts being awarded you can be certain many will go to Exxon, Shell and BP.
Those senators were correct to suggest that oil revenues might be distributed differently than the Saddam dictatorship administered the oil revenues.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/29/wo...html?ref=world
Lets check in a few months and look at the distribution of contracts and reconsider that a reform from the Saddam distribution of revenues might be in the best interest of everyone...the U.S. and the Iraqi people. This article jumped the gun over one contract and misrepresents the intent and ignores the hundreds of contracts being negotiated at this time.
|
09-17-2008, 08:19 PM
|
 |
Machiavelli Incarnate
|
|
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Michigan
Posts: 3,891
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam
Are you sure about the details and slant of your article? There are hundreds of contracts being awarded and Shell, Exxon and BP are signing agreements right now. Revenues that would be paid for the reconstruction would come from Iraq and not the first company that gets a contract. This is the first of hundreds of contracts and your title is misleading.
In addition the letter the three senators wrote was just to encourage a reform from the Saddam policy that did not allow revenue sharing among the various sects.
You might want to read a little further than National Review on this. Of the hundreds of contracts being awarded you can be certain many will go to Exxon, Shell and BP.
Those senators were correct to suggest that oil revenues might be distributed differently than the Saddam dictatorship administered the oil revenues.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/29/wo...html?ref=world
Lets check in a few months and look at the distribution of contracts and reconsider that a reform from the Saddam distribution of revenues might be in the best interest of everyone...the U.S. and the Iraqi people. This article jumped the gun over one contract and misrepresents the intent and ignores the hundreds of contracts being negotiated at this time. |
and in steps the well informed voice of reason... nice post Sam.
I just have one thing to add... The war was for no other reason than to stop terrorism and free the Iraqis. If you accomplish either of those goals, there is your reward... not oil.
See... it's not yours... it's the Iraqis, to do with as they please. Period. Y'all sound like a bunch of crack addicts. GIMME THE DAMN OIL BITCH!!! lmao... nice.
__________________
AWE Referee. 1) Thread must be in the Refereed Debate section. 2)I will only enforce the rules of the thread creator for that thread. 3) I will only referee threads that I am asked to by the thread creator. 4) I will not edit or delete posts, threads or memeber profiles from any other part of the site.
|
09-17-2008, 08:30 PM
|
 |
Machiavelli Incarnate
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Huh?
Posts: 6,180
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scoody Boo
There are no, NO, NONE, alternatives to Oil and Gas for transportation and we are nowhere anywhere near to developing a viable alternative.
|
We had buses that ran on hydrogen in the late 60's...you sayin' we can't do it now?
__________________
"All the problems we face in the United States today can be traced to an unenlightened immigration policy on the part of the American Indian."
Which side will you be on?
OBAMA/PEROT
|
09-17-2008, 08:32 PM
|
|
Machiavelli Incarnate
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Huh?
Posts: 6,180
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by J04miller
It is an absolute insult to the men and women that sacrificed their lives. I never believed it was for oil, but how can we just hand over something so valuable when we gave so much?
|
Just because we killed a bunch of them ragheads doesn't mean we own their oil...besides, oil is traded on the world market...doesn't really matter where it goes...hell we got people hollering about drilling ANWR and nearly all Alaskan oil goes to Asia...go figure.
__________________
"All the problems we face in the United States today can be traced to an unenlightened immigration policy on the part of the American Indian."
Which side will you be on?
OBAMA/PEROT
|
09-17-2008, 08:33 PM
|
 |
Political Mastermind
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Texas
Posts: 2,035
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by areyoushittin'me?
We had buses that ran on hydrogen in the late 60's...you sayin' we can't do it now?
|
The economies of China and India are booming. You know what those economies are running on? Oil! Sure, go ahead, develop hydrogen and rubberband and fart powered cars, but do not crash the economy by hamstringing oil. Get government the fuck out of the way and believe me, we can do better.
__________________
Liberal-a person who has his cake, eats his cake, and complains that other people don't have cake, and believes that you should donate your cake to them
|
09-17-2008, 08:36 PM
|
|
Machiavelli Incarnate
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Huh?
Posts: 6,180
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam
You might want to read a little further than National Review on this.
|
Damn, you're no fun...hell, there's a bunch of people around here who apparently read the thread title and if it was started by one of theirs that's good enough..."you lie and I'll swear to it."
__________________
"All the problems we face in the United States today can be traced to an unenlightened immigration policy on the part of the American Indian."
Which side will you be on?
OBAMA/PEROT
|
09-17-2008, 08:38 PM
|
|
Machiavelli Incarnate
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Huh?
Posts: 6,180
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scoody Boo
The economies of China and India are booming. You know what those economies are running on? Oil! Sure, go ahead, develop hydrogen and rubberband and fart powered cars, but do not crash the economy by hamstringing oil. Get government the fuck out of the way and believe me, we can do better.
|
That's all the more reason to develop alternatives...oil is useful for so many more important things than carting our sorry asses around.
__________________
"All the problems we face in the United States today can be traced to an unenlightened immigration policy on the part of the American Indian."
Which side will you be on?
OBAMA/PEROT
|
09-17-2008, 08:42 PM
|
 |
AWE Subscriber
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Near the knife drawer
Posts: 8,655
|
|
I dont understand why people are upset about oil going to China. After all, that is why we went to Afghanistan. A pipeline was needed to go through Afghanistan to China . I mean after all.....with all of our industry outsourced to China what is supposed to fuel the ships to bring the cargo here to North America?
Oh, you thought we went to Afghanistan to catch Bin Laden? BWAHAHAHAHAHA
__________________
"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them (the banks), will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father
|
09-17-2008, 10:17 PM
|
 |
AWE Subscriber
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 6,434
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by areyoushittin'me?
Just because we killed a bunch of them ragheads doesn't mean we own their oil...besides, oil is traded on the world market...doesn't really matter where it goes...hell we got people hollering about drilling ANWR and nearly all Alaskan oil goes to Asia...go figure.
|
AYSM, I feel a bit insulted by your response here.........I thought we were trying to forge some common ground.
I'm not into killing ragheads for oil. Sorry, you didn't have me figured out that easily.
__________________
I'm here for the beer and the ball bustin' band.
|
09-17-2008, 10:18 PM
|
|
AWE Subscriber
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 6,434
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Back Atcha
and in steps the well informed voice of reason... nice post Sam.
I just have one thing to add... The war was for no other reason than to stop terrorism and free the Iraqis. If you accomplish either of those goals, there is your reward... not oil.
See... it's not yours... it's the Iraqis, to do with as they please. Period. Y'all sound like a bunch of crack addicts. GIMME THE DAMN OIL BITCH!!! lmao... nice.
|
I don't have the energy for this right now.........I'll address it later. 
__________________
I'm here for the beer and the ball bustin' band.
|
| Thread Tools |
|
|
| Display Modes |
 Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
|
