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Old 09-13-2008, 12:50 AM
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Obama's been flip flopping a lot lately when speaking with news reporters, and in the latest CNN forum, too. He's also been a blatant hypocrit. In the CNN forum, Obama just continued to go on and on about volunteer work, and how each of us should help the less fortunate-yet, his African brother, George is still living in a slum in Africa, and Obama still refuses to help him. However, several U.S. citizens are presently in the process of setting up trust funds for George-and none by Obama himself.

Then, Obama insanely insists that his community organizer work qualifies him to be president (Uh, no!) Then he rambles on, and on in an insecure manner about how Sarah Palin isn't qualified to be president-"what?", Sarah Palin isn't even running for president-and she "IS" qualified to be Vice president, and president, because she does have four years executive experience as a mayor, and two years executive experience as a sitting governor of Alaska. A mayor and a governor do almost exactly the same thing as a president of the U.S.A. does, except it is on a state or town scale. However, a community organizer is not even close to doing executive work-much less getting executive experience. Neither is a senator. In fact a state senator is under the authority of the state governor, and a U.S. senator is under the authority of the president of the United States. And, both a state senator and a U.S. senator are responsible for helping make laws-and they don't even do that by themselves.

With this said for the umpteenth time, many voters are starting to wonder how in the hell did Obama end up as the democratic nominee-and who helped him get there? It is absolutely insane that CNN news is all over Sarah Palin, lying about her not having the experience necessary to be president (she does have the experience) if something should happen to John McCain. And, CNN's sudden interest in every little health problem that John McCain has had, or might have. Many voters are starting to get discouraged with Barack Obama, and a lot of this is due to the fact that no one really knows who he really is. He's been vague on his plans for change if he is elected president, and has even been bold enough to say that "change comes from the people-not from the government." Which is the same as him admitting after all these months that he can't change nothing-just like a lot of us have been saying all along. And, many voters are getting discouraged with Obama, due to the blatant favoritism that the news medias-particularily CNN news-have unfairly given to Obama, and never even bothering to question him on if he is even qualified to be president, but instead insanely have went after Sarah Palin, because she has taken a huge chunk away from Barack Obama's rock star status. She is also starting to take a lot of voters, too.

And, many voters who were not decided, are now saying they are voting for John McCain, because they are tired of the Obama lashers. And, they say that the democrats and the news medias are hiding a lot of damaging stuff about Barack Obama-stuff voters want to know about before he might be elected president. And, many voters are discouraged because of Obama's ties with Ayers, Wright, the new black panther party, and a lot of other negative people.

And, polls are starting to show Obama slipping behind John McCain, too.

Gallup Daily: McCain 48%, Obama 45%

And, a lot of women are still saying that Obama dissed Hillary by not putting her on the ticket, therefore, they are going to diss Obama by not voting for him.

But, the major problem that a lot of voters have with Obama, is that it is Obama who is the real politician who is not qualified to be president, and it is Obama who has been targeting Palin for daily dissing. And, Obama is too naive to know that every time he does this, he only makes Palin more popular and liked by new voters every day. Obama is way off message, too, and really needs to wake up, because election day is just right around the corner. If he really wants to win against McCain, then he's gonna have to leave Palin alone, and target his "real" opponent, John McCain. Obama looks very weak, and politically insecure every time he goes after Palin-so does CNN news.
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Old 09-13-2008, 03:00 AM
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Obama's been flip flopping a lot lately when speaking with news reporters, and in the latest CNN forum, too. He's also been a blatant hypocrit. In the CNN forum, Obama just continued to go on and on about volunteer work, and how each of us should help the less fortunate-yet, his African brother, George is still living in a slum in Africa, and Obama still refuses to help him. However, several U.S. citizens are presently in the process of setting up trust funds for George-and none by Obama himself.

Then, Obama insanely insists that his community organizer work qualifies him to be president (Uh, no!) Then he rambles on, and on in an insecure manner about how Sarah Palin isn't qualified to be president-"what?", Sarah Palin isn't even running for president-and she "IS" qualified to be Vice president, and president, because she does have four years executive experience as a mayor, and two years executive experience as a sitting governor of Alaska. A mayor and a governor do almost exactly the same thing as a president of the U.S.A. does, except it is on a state or town scale. However, a community organizer is not even close to doing executive work-much less getting executive experience. Neither is a senator. In fact a state senator is under the authority of the state governor, and a U.S. senator is under the authority of the president of the United States. And, both a state senator and a U.S. senator are responsible for helping make laws-and they don't even do that by themselves.

With this said for the umpteenth time, many voters are starting to wonder how in the hell did Obama end up as the democratic nominee-and who helped him get there? It is absolutely insane that CNN news is all over Sarah Palin, lying about her not having the experience necessary to be president (she does have the experience) if something should happen to John McCain. And, CNN's sudden interest in every little health problem that John McCain has had, or might have. Many voters are starting to get discouraged with Barack Obama, and a lot of this is due to the fact that no one really knows who he really is. He's been vague on his plans for change if he is elected president, and has even been bold enough to say that "change comes from the people-not from the government." Which is the same as him admitting after all these months that he can't change nothing-just like a lot of us have been saying all along. And, many voters are getting discouraged with Obama, due to the blatant favoritism that the news medias-particularily CNN news-have unfairly given to Obama, and never even bothering to question him on if he is even qualified to be president, but instead insanely have went after Sarah Palin, because she has taken a huge chunk away from Barack Obama's rock star status. She is also starting to take a lot of voters, too.

And, many voters who were not decided, are now saying they are voting for John McCain, because they are tired of the Obama lashers. And, they say that the democrats and the news medias are hiding a lot of damaging stuff about Barack Obama-stuff voters want to know about before he might be elected president. And, many voters are discouraged because of Obama's ties with Ayers, Wright, the new black panther party, and a lot of other negative people.

And, polls are starting to show Obama slipping behind John McCain, too.

Gallup Daily: McCain 48%, Obama 45%

And, a lot of women are still saying that Obama dissed Hillary by not putting her on the ticket, therefore, they are going to diss Obama by not voting for him.

But, the major problem that a lot of voters have with Obama, is that it is Obama who is the real politician who is not qualified to be president, and it is Obama who has been targeting Palin for daily dissing. And, Obama is too naive to know that every time he does this, he only makes Palin more popular and liked by new voters every day. Obama is way off message, too, and really needs to wake up, because election day is just right around the corner. If he really wants to win against McCain, then he's gonna have to leave Palin alone, and target his "real" opponent, John McCain. Obama looks very weak, and politically insecure every time he goes after Palin-so does CNN news.
I've been trying to find records of Obama himself "targeting Palin for daily dissing," and I haven't come up with much. Could you point to some websites or news reports that show him doing this?
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Old 09-13-2008, 03:56 AM
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I've been trying to find records of Obama himself "targeting Palin for daily dissing," and I haven't come up with much. Could you point to some websites or news reports that show him doing this?
It's called (key-word) Pundit talk. None of it is based in fact. It's all about (key-word) framing.

It has nothing to do with fact or truth. That's why it's all this long winded...'commentary'.

He's just doing what he's been trained to do on the right. Create commentary & present it as 'fact'.
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People are scared to death of him and the Democrats, refusal to drill, high taxes, people already suffering over prices, don't need new headaches, they have nothing but misery to offer.
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Old 09-13-2008, 10:16 AM
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People are scared to death of him and the Democrats, refusal to drill, high taxes, people already suffering over prices, don't need new headaches, they have nothing but misery to offer.
But Obama has agreed to use offshore drilling and he's talking about cuting taxes for 95% of American families. So I don't understand how he has "nothing but misery to offer"? I'm not arguing that you should vote for him or that his positions are better than McCain's, but I don't see what you're saying about those two issues, anyway.

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Old 09-13-2008, 11:28 AM
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But Obama has agreed to use offshore drilling and he's talking about cuting taxes for 95% of American families. So I don't understand how he has "nothing but misery to offer"? I'm not arguing that you should vote for him or that his positions are better than McCain's, but I don't see what you're saying about those two issues, anyway.
Obama "says" he is now in favor of offshore drilling. The Democrats have put up proposals lately that look good on the surface but are even more restrictive than what is in place now. That is how Obama now "favors" offshore drilling.

He says he is cutting taxes on 95% of American families well over half of American families do not pay any income tax anyway and a tax cut does not effect them. He does plan to increase taxes on 5% and that is basically the 5% that other 95% work for unless you are working for the government on some capacity or in the military.
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Old 09-13-2008, 11:37 AM
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Obama "says" he is now in favor of offshore drilling. The Democrats have put up proposals lately that look good on the surface but are even more restrictive than what is in place now. That is how Obama now "favors" offshore drilling.

He says he is cutting taxes on 95% of American families well over half of American families do not pay any income tax anyway and a tax cut does not effect them. He does plan to increase taxes on 5% and that is basically the 5% that other 95% work for unless you are working for the government on some capacity or in the military.
In what way is Obama's concession to offshore drilling "more restrictive than what is in place now"?

Where do you get the data that says "well over half of American families do not pay any income tax anyway"? The last data I can find is from 2004, when 32% did not pay taxes. The average over the last few decades is 22%. I got those numbers from the Tax Foundation website. That isn't anywhere close to the number you're talking about.

What's so bad about increasing taxes on the top 5% income-earners, while decreasing taxes on the other 95%?
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