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09-12-2008, 11:59 AM
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Of course she did.
The Obama cultists are in full panic.
The shrillness of Back Atcha and the other cultists only contributes to the view America already has of the Obama camp engaging in a vicious smear campaign against Palin, which is precisely what they are doing.
The more shrill the cultists become, the more damage they do to themselves.
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You are now in complete fantasy mode. BIDEN SUCKS, OBAMA SUCKS, MCCAIN SUCKS, PALIN SUCKS. These are not the choices we need to lead this country. Trying to label me as a cultist makes you look beyond moronic.
But to stick to the topic... How anyone can give a passing grade to someone who has to have the questions put to her spelled out three different times, and still not offer a direct answer... speaks more to your free pass system of party loyalist voting than it does anything else.
How can the Dems and 'Pubs not be up in arms over the choices they have had forced on them? How can they not be outraged at the lack of integrity in this win at any cost, damn the honesty, damn the experience, damn the postitions FARCE OF AN ELECTION.
The truly sad thing about you loyalists is, it has become painfully clear that you do not take your cues from your candidates, but from the media. McCain set an example of wanting to work WITH the opposition and bury the hatchet. But you dittoheads continue the same baseless attacks against your fellow americans... CLUE! Palin takes on her own party to (allegedly) restore inetegirty and hold them to higher standards, but you rubes continue to give them a pass on everything they do. IT"S YOUR PARTY! WHY ARE"T YOU DEMANDING BETTER?
Fucking clueless, the lot of you.
Sounds like cults all the way 'round to me.
And I'll thank you to stop including me in the Obummer crusade just because I'm taking you to school on points you have no other defense for.
FUCKING PARTY LOYALISTS AND MEDIA PRESSTITUTES.
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09-12-2008, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Back Atcha
I have no idea... but I'm willing to bet he won't have to be asked the same question, put in increasingly simple terms and finally spelled out for a third grader to understand before he can answer it dierectly.
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Biden can't answer directly under any circumstances - he is relegated to stealing the words of others.
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I don't care if Obummer wins or not, he's not my guy...
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You sure seem to have gone into a tail spin once Palin was selected - virtually ensuring a McCain win.
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I do care if we have four more years of evangelical, in the pocket of oil, anti-science, zero integrity, clueless leadership.
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Bush isn't running.
And you don't seem to mind an in the pocket of ADM, Gaia worshipping, zero integrity con man.
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Apparently, my standards are a little... okay, ALOT higher than yours.
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Apparently not, in fact they appear to be vastly lower.
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You won't find me supporting the Dems,
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Oh yeah? Sure looks like I found you doing exactly that, here.
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but you will see me calling out lack of integrity at every step.
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Not exactly, we won't see you saying a word about Obama and Tony Rezko - or the ADM kickbacks Obama gets, or even anything about Biden's legendary plagiarism.
No, you only attack Republicans - which makes you a partisan.
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The FactCheck.Org thing of late is clear evidence that there is no integrity in this party,
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Factcheck.org is as biased as Moveon. In fact, I think it IS another Soros site.
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and you party loyalists just roll over and take it.
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What party am I loyal to again?
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If it were my party, I'd be pissed!
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It is your party and you are pissed, that BITCH came in and ruined everything.
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You all praise this dimwit for taking on her own party, but you lack even the appearance of a backbone to do the same.
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I praise who for what?
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09-12-2008, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Back Atcha
The really hilarious thing here is... you are unable to see how badly BOTH suck as candidates. Sarah "We're on a mission from God" Palin...
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Can you provide an actual quote of Palin saying that she, Bush or the US is on a mission from god?
(Since you're lying, it's going to be tough!)
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09-12-2008, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Back Atcha
You are now in complete fantasy mode. BIDEN SUCKS, OBAMA SUCKS, MCCAIN SUCKS, PALIN SUCKS. These are not the choices we need to lead this country. Trying to label me as a cultist makes you look beyond moronic.
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ROFL
How do you think your silly attacks on Palin make you look, seriously?
You couldn't be more shrill.
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09-12-2008, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Uncensored2008
Can you provide an actual quote of Palin saying that she, Bush or the US is on a mission from god?
(Since you're lying, it's going to be tough!)
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Let me get this straight.... you can make all the fallacious inuendo you want... for example, BA is attacking Palin, he must be an Obummer cultist, and Obummer bought a house next to a criminal, so... and Obummer has a funny name so he must be....
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that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending them out on a task that is from God.“
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"Our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God," she said. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that plan is God's plan."
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"God's will has to be done in unifying people and companies to get that gas line built, so pray for that," she said.
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Hmmmm.... Seems my conclusion is FAR better grounded than your baseless, zero integrity, who cares if I made it up, fantasies.
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09-12-2008, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Back Atcha
You are now in complete fantasy mode. BIDEN SUCKS, OBAMA SUCKS, MCCAIN SUCKS, PALIN SUCKS. These are not the choices we need to lead this country. Trying to label me as a cultist makes you look beyond moronic.
But to stick to the topic... How anyone can give a passing grade to someone who has to have the questions put to her spelled out three different times, and still not offer a direct answer... speaks more to your free pass system of party loyalist voting than it does anything else.
How can the Dems and 'Pubs not be up in arms over the choices they have had forced on them? How can they not be outraged at the lack of integrity in this win at any cost, damn the honesty, damn the experience, damn the postitions FARCE OF AN ELECTION.
The truly sad thing about you loyalists is, it has become painfully clear that you do not take your cues from your candidates, but from the media. McCain set an example of wanting to work WITH the opposition and bury the hatchet. But you dittoheads continue the same baseless attacks against your fellow americans... CLUE! Palin takes on her own party to (allegedly) restore inetegirty and hold them to higher standards, but you rubes continue to give them a pass on everything they do. IT"S YOUR PARTY! WHY ARE"T YOU DEMANDING BETTER?
Fucking clueless, the lot of you.
Sounds like cults all the way 'round to me.
And I'll thank you to stop including me in the Obummer crusade just because I'm taking you to school on points you have no other defense for.
FUCKING PARTY LOYALISTS AND MEDIA PRESSTITUTES.
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You have me laughing. Gibson wasn't getting the answer he wanted , so he kept rephrasing it to attempt to he her to fall into his trap....you are really showing your inability to impartial about anything. Look at how upset you are that we don't bow to your infallibility. You actually think you are so intelligent that EVERYONE must agree with you.
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09-12-2008, 12:26 PM
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Even Koch (who is almost rabid against Palin) in an interview today said the question was incorrectly phrased and even he wouldn't know how to anwer a question of "the bush doctrine" with no context added.
I do find it interesting that this is found by some to be some political talking point of value, but it implies, to me anyway, that the pickings are slim so any stretch will do.
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09-12-2008, 01:04 PM
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Oh sure!.. Bitch cause she didn't do Interviews, and now she does, you still a Bitching..
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We were mocking her because it was obvious that they were afraid of putting her in a situation that required real thought. Now you see that our assessment of her was well founded. That's hardly a flip-flop.
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The way the press and you DU fools have been laying into her I don't blame her for being Slow to answer those "Trick" questions...
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Trick questions? TRICK QUESTIONS!? You don't think she's going to have to deal with questions of oil, foreign policy, or pre-emptive wars if she's elected? What should we be asking her? How much she loves her husband? how courageous she is for having a late-life pregnancy? Yeah, those will help us real well when McCain is laid out in a hospital bed and she's suddenly got to decide what to do when Israel enters an open war with Iran.
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That's all in the hell it was, a Trick question.. I though she did well enough, seeing as how the Interviewer "Worded" the question to produce confusion.. It was deliberately murky and even I didn't know what the heck he meant by "Bush Doctrine" ??
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Type "Bush Docterine" into a search on this site and you'll see it come up. You would also know it if you had watched any news over the last six years. THe Bush Docterine of pre-emption is a well-qualified term. And hell, if she really had balls she could have just said: "Bush has many different policies. Which one in particular are you refering to?" But she's not that sharp.
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At least she knows how many States there are in the United States, and I didn't hear her call Gipson "George" or have I heard her tell a cripple in a wheelchair to stand up!..
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I'm not even sure what you meant by the last of these examples, but slips of the tongue and clear lack of knowledge are two different things. No one really beleives that Obama thinks there are 57 states, but now we all KNOW she's totally unclear on how to pursue anything that goes off message.
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You people are without fairness or a balanced view.. Pitiful.. no respect, no honor..
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Hey, I'll level with you. I don't like Sara Palin because of the things she's sure about, not the things she's unsure about. But if this Interview knocks down her credibility as much as it looks like it's going to, I'll take what I can get.
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09-12-2008, 01:06 PM
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Again, you guys are killing me....the interview is going to HELP her....she has already done her job, rallied the Base....now it's that great unwashed 3 % you need to worry about....and frankly, I don'k Obama can.
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09-12-2008, 01:11 PM
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Biden can't answer directly under any circumstances - he is relegated to stealing the words of others.
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Hey stupid, his words or not, he does not have to have the questions restated, then explained, then restated again. His words or not, he answers directly. You're getting rather desperate in your attempts here. Maybe you should wait for your AM heroes to tell you how to deal with this before continuing.
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You sure seem to have gone into a tail spin once Palin was selected - virtually ensuring a McCain win.
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ROTFLMFOA... So... LMAO.... You're saying I should appear to support the 'pubs in an effort to keep them from being elected? Sorry patsy, I speak my mind and don't let party loyalty sway me into the most ridiculous realms of logic like you do. SROTF....
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Bush isn't running.
And you don't seem to mind an in the pocket of ADM, Gaia worshipping, zero integrity con man.
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Are you fucking HIGH?! Where did I say Bush was running... IT"S THE POLICIES STUPID! And how is it that you continually miss me saying OBUMMER SUCKS! Christ, I'd shoot myself if I found out how stupid my party allows me to look in an effort to defend their indefensible BS!
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Apparently not, in fact they appear to be vastly lower.
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Oh fuck... you're too much... That fallacious strategy of say anything the pols use has really sunk into your brain, hasn't it? Get yourself deprogrammed before it's too late....
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Oh yeah? Sure looks like I found you doing exactly that, here.
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Really? Quote one line where I support the Dems... come on, back up your dellusions... oh wait... They're dellusions. The, "at least he has constitutional law experience" comment? LMAO... Right after saying he SUCKS, and referring to him as OBUMMER? LMAO... It's called calling it as it is... reality, facts. See, I don't have to like either side in this horse race to maintain my own integrity, I prefer to be honest... maybe you should try it.
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Not exactly, we won't see you saying a word about Obama and Tony Rezko - or the ADM kickbacks Obama gets, or even anything about Biden's legendary plagiarism.
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Maybe you should fact check the Rezko thing... I did, which is why you won't see me making a fool out of myself bringing it up. STUPID. You loyalists will fall for anything. If McCain said he had lunch with Captain Kirk, you'd find a way to spin it. As for the ADM kickbacks, perhaps you can find me a reputable source of info on that... I can't find one... So back it up. And while you're at it, since it's corruption, perhaps you can forward that on to the Senate investigation committee.
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No, you only attack Republicans - which makes you a partisan.
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If that were true, which it's not, I attack Dems like Pelosi, Reid, Obama, etc, often, you just never read those posts. I have over 1000 threads I'm subscribed to, unless you follow everything I write, shut the fuck up. Even if I attack 'pubs more often, it is still absent any support for Dems... so, more skewed logic from an idiot, nothing more. See... I have a big problem with continuing ANY Bush policies, so excuse me if I see a bigger immediate threat in the zero integrity, business as usual republican campaign. You have your head so far up your parties ass, you wouldn't know a dyed in the wool independent centrist if he weighed 500 lbs and fell on you. I will say it one last time, and then you can go search my threads for subjects like "BOTH PARTIES MUST BE FIRED". I HATE BOTH CORRUPT, MEDIA COZY, SELLOUT TO THE LOBBIES, NO REPRESENTATION, POWER MAD, FUCKTARD PARTIES.
Got that FUCKO? READ IT AGAIN JUST TO MAKE SURE IT SINKS IN. You are just freaking out because you precious party is RIGHTFULLY under attack. But once again, you scream for a fairness doctrine in your attempt to get me to take sides. It isn't going to happen. DEAL WITH IT!
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Factcheck.org is as biased as Moveon. In fact, I think it IS another Soros site.
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ROTFLAMFOA.... There are a lot of republicans on this site that will disagree with you. Still in say anything mode huh? Maybe you should fact check that BULLSHIT you just dropped on the floor. If you don't, I will and I will rub your face in it from now until the election.
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What party am I loyal to again?
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You must be high... If you think I'm a Dem because of not attacking the left as much as the right... LMAO... your logic, not mine. Ya ya, I know.. You're a Libertarian, right? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Apply your own logic that you have leveled at me and then STFU.
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It is your party and you are pissed, that BITCH came in and ruined everything.
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LMAO, I don't have a party. I align myself with no one. There is no party that expresses the values that I hold dear. Honesty, Integrity, Patriotism (strictly the following of the founders fathers (father: patri, ism: follow, look it up moron), Constructionist, Representative. They all talk the game... but NOT ONE DEILIVERS.
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