Drilling in ANWR will produce more oil today than inflating tires will save??

reccles44 · #21 (**permalink**) 08-05-2008, 09:10 AM

“There is no crisis on our side of the aisle,” a top House Democratic leadership aide said. “We have a plan, and we will stick to it.”

Yea stick it to the American people. That is their plan and always has been.

Amazed · #22 (**permalink**) 08-05-2008, 10:02 AM

From CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney

Most Americans are for offshore drilling but are split on whether it will change gas prices.
(CNN) — Most Americans favor an increase in offshore oil drilling but the public is split over whether or not it would result in lower gas prices in the next year, according to a just-released CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll.

More than two thirds of Americans say they favor increasing drilling efforts off America's costs while only 30 percent disapprove of such action. Those numbers come the same day President Bush publicly scolded Democratic congressional leaders for not putting his proposal to expand domestic oil drilling, specifically on the outer continental shelf, to a vote.

CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - Poll: Most Americans want offshore drilling « - Blogs from CNN.com

It's NEVER been about what the American "People" want, it's ALWAYS been about what the Left Wing Leaders THINK they should want.

Oh really? Voters have a much different view. Polls suggest that two-thirds to three-quarters of the nation wants to drill. To wit, while a just-released Obama campaign ad attacks McCain as a tool of big oil, McCain has taken his first-ever lead in a Rasmussen tracking poll.

RealClearPolitics - Articles - Drill, Drill, Drill Is Working

Perople be damned, WE KNOW BETTER!!!!!!!

Chef · #23 (**permalink**) 08-05-2008, 10:10 AM

Once Again... Silly Americans Are Just Imagining Things-- Obama DID NOT Change His Position on Dipping Into the Strategic Oil Reserve

Silly Americans!
Of course, Barack Obama did not flip-flop on tapping into the strategic oil reserves.
Once again, you were just imagining things.

Here's Barack Obama on strategic reserves yesterday and today:

Video via Hannity and Colmes.

The LA Times says it was a shift in positions... But, what do they know?
They're just a bunch of Bush lackeys anyway:

Democrat Barack Obama called today for tapping the nation's strategic oil reserves to help drive down gasoline prices, a shift from his previous position on the issue.

The reversal is the second refinement in Obama's energy policy. Last week, he said that he would reluctantly consider accepting some offshore oil drilling. Obama had previously said he opposed such drilling, which is strongly backed by rival John McCain, who has urged that states be allowed to decide whether to drill.
That's not a flip-flop.
It's a redefining of a previous inartful position.

George O Well · #24 (**permalink**) 08-05-2008, 10:15 AM

With or without ANWR, there is no shortage of oil/gas. The true economic cost of a gallon of gas is $2.20. Everything above that is due to silly wild-ass speculation.

I really don't care whether we drill in ANWR or not, but the issue is a ridiculous Republican red herring since they got nothing.

George O Well · #25 (**permalink**) 08-05-2008, 10:20 AM

The oil companies have on-shore and off-shore leases they haven't even BEGUN to explore. The ANWR issue is just a symbolic power struggle over who is going to run this country - the government or the oil companies.

namvet · #26 (**permalink**) 08-05-2008, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by mulp

Can someone explain how even leasing out ANWR today with drilling authorized will produce more oil this year than inflating tires will save??

Does McCain have a time machine??

Even is drilling started today in ANWR, buying a more fuel efficient car when your existing car is five years old would save more oil than drilling in ANWR would add.

Drilling has been done in the Alaskan seas and oil found, but that isn't delivering oil to the market today, so how can starting drilling in ANWR deliver more oil yet this year??

McCain is merely making promises of future wonderfulness without delivering anything today, and then criticizing Obama for offering solutions that improve the situation today.

And Obama offers solutions that improve things in Michigan, like making Michigan a manufacturing center for wind power generating equipment, which when installed would generate electricity that can recharge the batteries of electric cars manufactured in Michigan. But then again, McCain's straight talk express message to Michigan workers is, "your job is gone and ain't coming back."

McCain is visiting a site where a $3B nuclear power plants was proposed, but that was before the costs of energy which drives the costs of construction materials doubled, so that proposed plant is on the nuclear power plant cost escalator. Now the costs are estimated at $5-6B. And the plant hasn't even gotten approval. Of course, this new power plant will depend on the big government central planners really getting behind the plant so that the democratic process is overridden, like China has done to get everything ready for the olympics.....

anwr is 78 miles from the alaska pipeline...........1 plus 1 ??????

namvet · #27 (**permalink**) 08-05-2008, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chef

Once Again... Silly Americans Are Just Imagining Things-- Obama DID NOT Change His Position on Dipping Into the Strategic Oil Reserve

Silly Americans!
Of course, Barack Obama did not flip-flop on tapping into the strategic oil reserves.
Once again, you were just imagining things.

Here's Barack Obama on strategic reserves yesterday and today:

Video via Hannity and Colmes.

The LA Times says it was a shift in positions... But, what do they know?
They're just a bunch of Bush lackeys anyway:

Democrat Barack Obama called today for tapping the nation's strategic oil reserves to help drive down gasoline prices, a shift from his previous position on the issue.

The reversal is the second refinement in Obama's energy policy. Last week, he said that he would reluctantly consider accepting some offshore oil drilling. Obama had previously said he opposed such drilling, which is strongly backed by rival John McCain, who has urged that states be allowed to decide whether to drill.
That's not a flip-flop.
It's a redefining of a previous inartful position.

Osama energy plan

toxic · #28 (**permalink**) 08-05-2008, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amazed

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Most Americans are for offshore drilling but are split on whether it will change gas prices....

Perople be damned, WE KNOW BETTER!!!!!!!

From same article:

Quote:

The poll also shows Americans are divided when it comes to the effect of offshore drilling. Just over 50 percent think it will reduce gas prices while 49 percent say it will not.

Finally, you understand Amazed.

Half of the people are too stupid to understand that a hysterical drilling panic, will not change the price of gas. Those people are the half with IQs under 100 and are Republicans.

mulp · #29 (**permalink**) 08-06-2008, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jebe

Mulp, it sure would have helped at this point if the democrats hadnt blocked the full scale exploration that all companies wished to partake of when first discovered.

Let's see, the ANWR and OCS regions contain only 15% of the oil and gas in the US, according to the people who say there is oil and gas in ANWR and off limit OCS. The other 85% is already leased, being leased, or could be leased.

However, the problem for the oil companies is that much of the untapped oil is on private land, for example in the Bakken formation, and the private owners demand higher royalty payments than the oil owned by We the People that McCain wants to give the oil companies so they can get high profits. Me, I want MY oil to to be sold for high royalties to the oil companies so they get a small profit for their efforts, just like they work for the Saudis and all the other dictators with oil; I don't understand you want to give YOUR oil away so the oil companies can get high profits from OUR oil.

Besides, Exxon has had a lease on an oil field for 30 years. Exxon hit oil in six out of seven wells before 1982. Had approval from the State of Alaska to produce oil from six of those wells. And Exxon shut in those six wells in 1982 and hasn't drilled a single well into that field since, depriving the people of Alaska payments for their share of the oil profits. Twenty five years doing everything Exxon could do to not produce the oil from the lease they got more than three decades ago.

So, why do you think that Exxon would produce any oil from a lease in ANWR or the OCS if doing so would reduce its profits by driving down the price of oil?

mulp · #30 (**permalink**) 08-06-2008, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by namvet

Osama energy plan

Inflated tires and tuneups would cut consumption by 3.3% according to Bush adminstration's DOE.

Oil consumption is down 2.2%.

The price of oil is down 20%.

Lower prices result in lower quantity supplied, and the supply of oil in the US is down slightly.

Obama's energy plan has reduced oil prices by 20% already.