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Old 08-04-2008, 04:57 PM
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Amy Procter captured the outrageous video of the House Speaker who insists she knows what is best for Americans even if it means sucking up $5.00 gas prices for the next 20 years!
Speaker Pelosi is really unbelievable:
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Amy Procter captured the outrageous video of the House Speaker who insists she knows what is best for Americans even if it means sucking up $5.00 gas prices for the next 20 years!
Speaker Pelosi is really unbelievable:
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Pelosi is an utter Moron. So is Reid.
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Old 08-04-2008, 06:15 PM
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Pelosi is an utter Moron. So is Reid.
I'd wager that you couldn't cite any words of Pelosi's or Reid's without a search. 'mazed...


That makes you a Bobbleheaded Idiot.
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Old 08-04-2008, 06:24 PM
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I'd wager that you couldn't cite any words of Pelosi's or Reid's without a search. 'mazed...


That makes you a Bobbleheaded Idiot.
Poor Crowley, so much hatred, so little time. Reid is my Ex-Wife's Cousin sweetie..and he has ties to some very dubious Real Estate Deals.....but it's ok...he is a Lefty.

Don't you find it ineteresting how you Lefty's can only communicate in name calling?
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Allow me to rephrase, MOST Lefty's.
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Old 08-04-2008, 06:25 PM
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Can someone explain how even leasing out ANWR today with drilling authorized will produce more oil this year than inflating tires will save??

Does McCain have a time machine??

Even is drilling started today in ANWR, buying a more fuel efficient car when your existing car is five years old would save more oil than drilling in ANWR would add.

Drilling has been done in the Alaskan seas and oil found, but that isn't delivering oil to the market today, so how can starting drilling in ANWR deliver more oil yet this year??

McCain is merely making promises of future wonderfulness without delivering anything today, and then criticizing Obama for offering solutions that improve the situation today.

And Obama offers solutions that improve things in Michigan, like making Michigan a manufacturing center for wind power generating equipment, which when installed would generate electricity that can recharge the batteries of electric cars manufactured in Michigan. But then again, McCain's straight talk express message to Michigan workers is, "your job is gone and ain't coming back."

McCain is visiting a site where a $3B nuclear power plants was proposed, but that was before the costs of energy which drives the costs of construction materials doubled, so that proposed plant is on the nuclear power plant cost escalator. Now the costs are estimated at $5-6B. And the plant hasn't even gotten approval. Of course, this new power plant will depend on the big government central planners really getting behind the plant so that the democratic process is overridden, like China has done to get everything ready for the olympics.....
How much will inflating your tires cost?
Too inflate your tires, a compressor is involved. Compressors need energy to compress air.
Tuning you car engine will create more greenhouse gases and increase the demand for gasoline.
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Old 08-04-2008, 06:31 PM
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So, Obama is right. Inflating tires will help today, and building electric cars and plug in hybrids like the Volt in Michigan will cut oil demand and lower prices before drilling in ANWR can possibly increase supply of oil and lower prices.

So, why does anyone think that McCain has any idea of what to do to lower the cost of oil based energy sooner than Obama does?

By the time drilling in ANWR lowers the cost of oil, the odds are good that McCain will be dead, and definitely out of office.

And Obama is calling for oil to be pumped out of the SPR which would lower oil and gas prices in a matter of weeks, but McCain is opposed to that, so McCain seems to want high oil prices today.

Why does anyone want high oil prices today? Or is the view that adding oil supplies today won't lower the price of gas and oil? If adding supply today won't lower prices today, the why would drilling in ANWR lower prices after McCain was out of office a decade from now?

McCain's promises seem to ring of "the Iraq war will pay for itself" and "elections in Iraq will transform the Arab world into democracies."
No, building those stupid cars will not drive the price of oil down today. Come one people think for a second here. Where the hell is all that electricity going to come from? California is already on the verge of an electrical shortage. Every time the temp reaches 90 Cali is in danger of brown outs and black outs. Now start having millions of people plug into the grid with those damned cars that mile for mile are no more efficient than some gas cars.

Lets see, more electric cars mean more electric producing plants. Now how do we power those plants? Wind? Nope wind turbines get blocked just about everywhere they are proposed. Solar? Nope, the enviro whackos think that desert geckos are more important that producing clean power for people. Coal? Well we already know what enviro whackos think of coal. Nuclear? Ha ha! Natural Gas? Well we would need to drill for it too. Oil? Please read about Nuclear. Hydro? Nope, the fish will die.

So I guess unless everyone walks around with solar powered hats then we are back at square one with even the electric car. Good grief this is so elementary. Even a 5th grader could figure that one out.

The only thing to do is to do everything. Drill here drill now while exploring and developing alternative sources of energy. Besides any replacement for oil and gas is going to take at least 25 years to develop then probably another 20 or so years to build a sufficient infrastructure to support that energy so we are looking at the middle of this century before anything really happens. In the mean time, drilling for our own sources of oil (and we are the ONLY oil producing nation on this planet that is not going after its own supply) and building plants that can refine that oil is the only way to go.
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Amy Procter captured the outrageous video of the House Speaker who insists she knows what is best for Americans even if it means sucking up $5.00 gas prices for the next 20 years!
Speaker Pelosi is really unbelievable:
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I guess she didnt count on the American people actually knowing how best to handle this problem. We drove less. Some 10 billion miles less. That eased demand on oil a little and guess what, the price of a barrel went down. Plus the fact that China has no need to continue buying oil for the Olympics because they have done everything they can for that event and it will go away in a few weeks so that demand is gone too. (Oh yea it took a lot of energy for China to build and prepare for the Olympics)

Remember it isnt always ACTUAL demand that drives prices...sometimes it is perceived demand and in this case both actual and perceived demand went down so that brought the price down as well. Bush opening up offshore drilling increased the perceived notion that supply would increase also help bring down the price. Drilling in ANWAR would give the perception of increased supply and production giving a short term decrease in oil and when that supply came on line it would decrease the price even more because there would be actual increased supply. Pretty simple when you just stop and think about it.

In the mean time, Americans will continue to drive less and we will watch prices dip even further. All without Pelosi and her gang of thieves doing anything at all.
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Pelosi: At-risk Dems back drilling
By: Martin Kady II and Patrick O'Connor
August 5, 2008 07:44 AM EST

California Democrat Nancy Pelosi may be trying to save the planet — but the rank and file in her party increasingly are just trying to save their political hides when it comes to gas prices as Republicans apply more and more rhetorical muscle.

But what looks like intraparty tension on the surface is part of an intentional strategy in which Pelosi takes the heat on energy policy, while behind the scenes she’s encouraging vulnerable Democrats to express their independence if it helps them politically, according to Democratic aides on and off Capitol Hill.

Pelosi’s gambit rests on one big assumption: that Democrats will own Washington after the election and will be able to craft a sweeping energy policy that is heavy on conservation and fuel alternatives while allowing for some new oil drilling. Democrats see no need to make major concessions on energy policy with a party poised to lose seats in both chambers in just three months — even if recess-averse Republicans continue to pound away on the issue.

“The reality is we will have a new president in three months, and what Bush and the Republicans are trying to do amounts to a land grab for the oil companies,” said one senior House Democratic aide involved with party strategy. “I don’t think we have to give in at all pre-election — we have many more options postelection.”

It’s a reality that Rep. Nick J. Rahall (D-W.Va.) personally delivered to President Bush recently.

Rahall spent more than an hour last week talking to the president about energy. Bush spent the entire flight aboard Air Force One, and much of a subsequent limousine ride, grilling the West Virginia Democrat about legislative solutions to the high price of gasoline, Rahall said last week.

So, does the president think Congress can get anything done this year?

“No,” Rahall replied in a short interview with Politico. “He’s realistic about it.”

Asked if Congress will produce a comprehensive energy bill in September before Congress adjourns again for elections, Rahall replied, “This year? No.”

Instead, the chairman of the House Committee on Natural Resources believes Democrats are all about 2009.

“We’ve laid the groundwork this year,” Rahall said.

Democratic House aides say the energy agenda has been carefully gamed out in strategy sessions, and Pelosi always intended to take heat on gas prices while tacitly encouraging more vulnerable Democrats to publicly disagree with her and show their independence.

Freshman Democrats like Jason Altmire of Pennsylvania and Don Cazayoux of Louisiana have taken her up on the offer.

Altmire has said a drilling vote “will happen,” while Cazayoux, hoping to hang on to his seat in a conservative Baton Rouge-area district, on Friday sent a letter to Majority Leader Steny H. Hoyer (D-Md.) demanding a vote on more domestic oil exploration.

“There will be a vote,” said Altmire, who faces a rematch with former GOP Rep. Melissa Hart this fall in the Pittsburgh suburbs.

Indeed, Congress must vote before Sept. 30 to renew the annual moratorium; otherwise, it will lapse on its own, giving states the right to decide whether private companies can search for potential drilling sites three miles offshore. .

“My view is that if we have a vote, let’s make it a rational policy,” said Altmire, whose district includes viable coal and nuclear industries. “We can’t let Republicans hold this issue hostage because of one vote.”

Cazayoux, in his letter, says “the current debate seems to be bogged down in partisan one-upmanship.”

To some extent, House Republicans seem to be playing right along with the strategy, taking Pelosi’s name in vain dozens of times during their rebel House sessions over the past few days and making her the villain who won’t allow oil drilling votes.

“It’s grossly unfair to the Democrats who want a vote,” said Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas). “[Pelosi] needs to cut that out.”

The Senate has also gone with a run-out-the-clock strategy, with Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) calling for a bipartisan energy summit but promising no major energy votes. Reid embraced the drilling and conservation proposals of the bipartisan Senate “Gang of 10” last week, but he made further commitment on the energy debate.

Reid, like Pelosi, is expecting to have a much stronger governing majority in the Senate next year, so he has little incentive to give in to Republicans on energy policy as long as he thinks it won’t hurt Democrats.

Even as they face heat from constituents during the August break, Democrats say they aren’t going to cave in to popular pressure.

“We feel pretty comfortable with where we are,” said Rep. Michael E. Capuano (D-Mass.), who is close to the Democratic leadership. “This is a not a new issue. This just didn’t happen today. We’ve been working on this for months.”

Democratic insiders said that Pelosi and other party leaders were “not rattled” by the GOP floor rebellion, and at this point, it’s not clear if the Democrats will even pay a price on energy. State-level polling conducted by Democrats suggests that voters still view President Bush and the GOP as the incumbent power in Washington, and Democratic strategists believe any anti-incumbent wave would hurt Republicans more than Democrats.

Rep. Jeb Hensarling of Texas, one of the leaders of the rogue GOP House session, said he realizes that Democrats are “in a four-corners stall right now,” and admits that “it gets more challenging” for Republicans if they lose more seats in Congress.

Democrats are also comforted somewhat by the fact that crude oil prices have gone down more than 10 percent from their summer highs, and if the U.S. economy enters a recession, prices may fall further due to slackening demand.

“There is no crisis on our side of the aisle,” a top House Democratic leadership aide said. “We have a plan, and we will stick to it.”

John Bresnahan and Daniel Reilly contributed to this story

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