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08-06-2008, 03:23 PM
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Monica Goodling Data Mined the internet and screened non-political careeer applicants for their religion, politcal party affliation, abortion rights position, Florida recount position, guns rights position, gay rights position, etc.
She reported this information to the White House for all senior applicants and used terms in her memos like "Cons[ervative] on 'god, guns + gays'," “pro-God in public life,” and “pro-marriage, anti-civil union.”
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Uhm, toxic, that isn't corruption. Partisanship, yes. Corruption, no. Doesn't justify it mind you, but it isn't corruption. |
08-06-2008, 03:34 PM
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Monica Goodling Data Mined the internet and screened non-political careeer applicants for their religion, politcal party affliation, abortion rights position, Florida recount position, guns rights position, gay rights position, etc.
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>>>Of course it's corruption. |
08-06-2008, 03:37 PM
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>>>Of course it's corruption.
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What personal gain did they get from doing this? Without gain, it isn't corruption.
I can post definitions if you need some help understanding this.... |
08-06-2008, 03:47 PM
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What personal gain did they get from doing this? Without gain, it isn't corruption.
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Since when does personal gain have ANYTHING to do with corruption (not that Bush and Gonzo haven't gained personally from this)? The Catholic Church is corrupt and the nuns don't get anything out of it. |
08-06-2008, 03:51 PM
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What personal gain did they get from doing this? Without gain, it isn't corruption.
I can post definitions if you need some help understanding this....
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I would call protection from investigation, increasing personal political power and slanting the scales in favor of your party, corruption.
We can't continue to compartmentalize things down to individuals, it must be taken on a party level. Think RICO.
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08-06-2008, 06:15 PM
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Uhm, toxic, that isn't corruption. Partisanship, yes. Corruption, no. Doesn't justify it mind you, but it isn't corruption.
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When it's breaking the law, it's corruption. |
08-06-2008, 06:22 PM
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What personal gain did they get from doing this? Without gain, it isn't corruption.
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You have it bass ackwards.
Civil action:
Can the people rejected for employment, rejected for advancement or fired, claim a loss?
Sure, they loss employment and maybe cars and homes due to loss of income.
Criminal action:
Discriminating against career civil service people is against the law.
Yet, even from your original position, I would say yes ... blocking idealogical competition provided a gain to those that discriminated. |
08-06-2008, 07:00 PM
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So may americnas dont give ahit about the corruption that costs them money and ruins the govermetn. Its bizzare. Mor bizzare is the ones that clearly like it when its there party doing it.
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08-06-2008, 07:52 PM
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I was about to bring up RICO, but I didn't believe Soho would know what I was talking about.
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08-07-2008, 08:55 AM
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I was about to bring up RICO, but I didn't believe Soho would know what I was talking about.
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Excellent point. |
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