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07-16-2008, 12:56 PM
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Let's face it, Pat. You have no clue what Trotsky represented or promoted. Your rulers said that Neocons are Trotskyites. You don't really understand what a "Neocon" is, in your alleged mind "Neocon" means "Infidel," anyone who fails to blindly follow your shameful party.
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>>>So you DID pull your statement from the Trotsky manifesto. And you DO admit you are a filthy Trotskyite neocon. And the Likud Party is NOT shameful. BWAHAHAHAHAHA
>>>I can boil my definition of 'neocon' down to one word - "traitor". That's all I need.
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The problem is, that whether you are posting as Patriot, or as George
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>>>Just goes to show how ridiculous a poofter you can be. I've never posted as anybody other than "George".
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you remain a complete dolt. You have an IQ in the low 80's (I'm not kidding) and appear the babbling fool you actually are.
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>>>Funniest thing, that's not what my test or board scores show. Maybe they are wrong and you are right because, well, you Trotsky true-believers think you have the answer for everything. Ain't that right, Leon?
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07-16-2008, 02:18 PM
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>>>So you DID pull your statement from the Trotsky manifesto.
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Sure, I used a manifesto on art to pull a "quote" which wasn't a quote at all - but a simple statement.
You really are as dumb as a bag of hammers.
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And you DO admit you are a filthy Trotskyite neocon. And the Likud Party is NOT shameful. BWAHAHAHAHAHA
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I admit that you are a very, very stupid person. One who doesn't comprehend what Trotsky represented. You don't seem to have any understanding of economic systems at all.
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>>>I can boil my definition of 'neocon' down to one word - "traitor". That's all I need.
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Further revealing that you are an utter and complete moron. Similar to a Jihadist screaming "Infidel."
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>>>Just goes to show how ridiculous a poofter you can be. I've never posted as anybody other than "George".
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Sure, Pat.
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>>>Funniest thing, that's not what my test or board scores show. Maybe they are wrong and you are right because, well, you Trotsky true-believers think you have the answer for everything. Ain't that right, Leon?
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What did the board of inquiry on mentally retarded patients peg you at?
Give us a giggle, if I were what you claim, what precisely would I believe?
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07-17-2008, 08:45 AM
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ode to mary jo
The problem with american men is they worship themselves too much. The reality is this politician is singing praises about another politician who is guilty of murder. But because of what his job was he got off scott free. And because of what this guys job is americans are supposed to be interested. Is the word puke in the song? 
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07-17-2008, 09:15 AM
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The problem with american men is they worship themselves too much. The reality is this politician is singing praises about another politician who is guilty of murder. But because of what his job was he got off scott free. And because of what this guys job is americans are supposed to be interested. Is the word puke in the song? 
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American men are treated like second-class citizens and do not have equal rights.
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07-17-2008, 02:06 PM
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>>>So you DID pull your statement from the Trotsky manifesto. And you DO admit you are a filthy Trotskyite neocon. And the Likud Party is NOT shameful. BWAHAHAHAHAHA
>>>I can boil my definition of 'neocon' down to one word - "traitor". That's all I need.
>>>Just goes to show how ridiculous a poofter you can be. I've never posted as anybody other than "George".
>>>Funniest thing, that's not what my test or board scores show. Maybe they are wrong and you are right because, well, you Trotsky true-believers think you have the answer for everything. Ain't that right, Leon?
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Weird that you mention Traitor without snickering.. You live in a fantasy world that don't include people.
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07-17-2008, 02:23 PM
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One who doesn't comprehend what Trotsky represented.
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>>>I'm SURE I don't understand Trotsky as well as you do, probably because I am not as interested in overthrowing the U.S. government as you and Leon are and I have not studied the man in a great detail as you have. But there's room for everybody on this planet. Me here and you and Leon in Israel.
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07-17-2008, 02:34 PM
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>>>I'm SURE I don't understand Trotsky as well as you do,
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That's understandable, you have what, a third grade education?
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probably because I am not as interested in overthrowing the U.S. government as you and Leon
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George, you are very stupid. Can you show where Trotsky advocated the overthrow of the USA?
Trotsky claimed that capitalists (that would be people like me) would be thrown into a state of perpetual revolution leading to communists (that would be people like you) taking over.
Trotsky oppost the Stallinist Bolsheviks who insisted on militarism and conquest.
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are and I have not studied the man in a great detail as you have.
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You've never studied anything in great detail, George. You are uneducated and ignorant.
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07-17-2008, 03:39 PM
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Can you show where Trotsky advocated the overthrow of the USA?
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>>>How about the world??? The USA is a part of the world, is it not? If I can show you that Trotsky advocated permanent world revolution along Marxist lines, would you kindly go fuck yerself? And if I can show you that one of the founders of current neoconservatism movement (Trotskyism Reprised) had a large framed portrait of Leon hanging in his office, would you kindly go fuck yerself again?
Let's face it, comrade, you are a dolt.
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07-17-2008, 03:58 PM
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>>>How about the world???
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How about it? Have you heard the term "perpetual revolution?"
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If I can show you that Trotsky advocated permanent world revolution along Marxist lines,
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Of course you can, Trotsky was a Marxist after all. (Like you, which is why your complaints are baffling)
But like Marx, Trotsky believed that revolution was a natural state that arose from the prolitariate casting off the yoke of capitalism.
Trotsky believed the peasants of the USA would rise up in revolution. That isn't the same as advocating an invasion or outside induced conflict.
As I said, George - you don't comprehend the concepts involved.
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would you kindly go fuck yerself?
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No thank you.
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And if I can show you that one of the founders of current neoconservatism movement (Trotskyism Reprised) had a large framed portrait of Leon hanging in his office, would you kindly go fuck yerself again?
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The Trotsky connection to the Neocons is well known. So the question is, shouldn't you be a Neocon? Or are you a Bolshevik, believing that agitators (armed, of course) are needed to spark a revolution?
Or like Leon, are you too stupid to realize that there is no peasant class in the US to rise up?
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Let's face it, comrade, you are a dolt.
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Rich irony, George.
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07-17-2008, 06:12 PM
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As I said, George - you don't comprehend the concepts involved.
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>>>As I said, Leon, I have the concepts all wrapped up. Anybody who follows people who have large, framed portraits of Trotsky on their walls (such as yourself) and advocates world revolution (again, such as yourself) is a neocon subversive, even if they have to put up with saying they are American for a while.
Say, wasn't it you who said "There are two sides, the rulers and the ruled, all else is illusion." Classic Trotskyite/Neocon bullshit. It doesn't work here, pally. Try another country.
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