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Old 06-24-2008, 06:07 AM
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I know the weather guy on the weather channel disagrees, but he usually gets the weather wrong too.

NASA warming scientist: 'This is the last chance' - USATODAY.com


WASHINGTON (AP) — Exactly 20 years after warning America about global warming, a top NASA scientist said the situation has gotten so bad that the world's only hope is drastic action.
James Hansen told Congress on Monday that the world has long passed the "dangerous level" for greenhouse gases in the atmosphere and needs to get back to 1988 levels. He said Earth's atmosphere can only stay this loaded with man-made carbon dioxide for a couple more decades without changes such as mass extinction, ecosystem collapse and dramatic sea level rises.

"We're toast if we don't get on a very different path," Hansen, director of the Goddard Institute of Space Sciences who is sometimes called the godfather of global warming science, told The Associated Press. "This is the last chance."

Hansen brought global warming home to the public in June 1988 during a Washington heat wave, telling a Senate hearing that global warming was already here. To mark the anniversary, he testified before the House Select Committee on Energy Independence and Global Warming where he was called a prophet, and addressed a luncheon at the National Press Club where he was called a hero by former Sen. Tim Wirth, D-Colo., who headed the 1988 hearing.

To cut emissions, Hansen said coal-fired power plants that don't capture carbon dioxide emissions shouldn't be used in the United States after 2025, and should be eliminated in the rest of the world by 2030. That carbon capture technology is still being developed and not yet cost efficient for power plants.

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Burning fossil fuels like coal is the chief cause of man-made greenhouse gases. Hansen said the Earth's atmosphere has got to get back to a level of 350 parts of carbon dioxide per million. Last month, it was 10% higher: 386.7 parts per million.

Hansen said he'll testify on behalf of British protesters against new coal-fired power plants. Protesters have chained themselves to gates and equipment at sites of several proposed coal plants in England.

"The thing that I think is most important is to block coal-fired power plants," Hansen told the luncheon. "I'm not yet at the point of chaining myself but we somehow have to draw attention to this."

Frank Maisano, a spokesman for many U.S. utilities, including those trying to build new coal plants, said while Hansen has shown foresight as a scientist, his "stop them all approach is very simplistic" and shows that he is beyond his level of expertise.

The year of Hansen's original testimony was the world's hottest year on record. Since then, 14 years have been hotter, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

Two decades later, Hansen spent his time on the question of whether it's too late to do anything about it. His answer: There's still time to stop the worst, but not much time.

"We see a tipping point occurring right before our eyes," Hansen told the AP before the luncheon. "The Arctic is the first tipping point and it's occurring exactly the way we said it would."
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It's a whopping 72 degrees outside right now with an aweful hot low of 56 tonight predicted... they sky is falling it's sooooooo hot omg help!!!!!!
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Exactly 20 years after warning America about global warming, a top NASA scientist said the situation has gotten so bad that the world's only hope is drastic action.
So, for twenty years the guy has been wrong, but instead of re-examining his theories, he is still preaching doomsday.

Hell, even the UN has conceded that there hasn't been global warming for the past decade and most likely won't be any for the next decade.
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It's a whopping 72 degrees outside right now with an aweful hot low of 56 tonight predicted... they sky is falling it's sooooooo hot omg help!!!!!!
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(Global Warming) So, for twenty years the guy has been wrong, but instead of re-examining his theories, he is still preaching doomsday.

Hell, even the UN has conceded that there hasn't been global warming for the past decade and most likely won't be any for the next decade.
It was a metaphor. We have nukes now.
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It gets worse.....



Former UN sec-gen Annan calls for 'climate justice'


Former UN secretary general Kofi Annan on Tuesday called for 'climate justice', saying that it was polluters who should pay for the effects of climate change, and not the poorest and most vulnerable.
He said funding should be made available to help disadvantaged communities adapt to the effects of global warming as he urged for the international community to focus on adaptation measures.

"We must have climate justice. As an international community, we must recognise that the polluter must pay and not the poor and vulnerable," said Annan at the first high-level meeting of his new humanitarian forum.

During the two-day conference, the Global Humanitarian Forum brings together luminaries from the worlds of politics, business, diplomacy and development to discuss how best to adapt to climate change -- the issue that Annan has called "one of the most significant humanitarian challenges of our time".


Former UN sec-gen Annan calls for 'climate justice'

These people are complete Moron's....
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Former UN sec-gen Annan calls for 'climate justice'


Former UN secretary general Kofi Annan on Tuesday called for 'climate justice', saying that it was polluters who should pay for the effects of climate change, and not the poorest and most vulnerable.
He said funding should be made available to help disadvantaged communities adapt to the effects of global warming as he urged for the international community to focus on adaptation measures.

"We must have climate justice. As an international community, we must recognise that the polluter must pay and not the poor and vulnerable," said Annan at the first high-level meeting of his new humanitarian forum.

During the two-day conference, the Global Humanitarian Forum brings together luminaries from the worlds of politics, business, diplomacy and development to discuss how best to adapt to climate change -- the issue that Annan has called "one of the most significant humanitarian challenges of our time".


Former UN sec-gen Annan calls for 'climate justice'

These people are complete Moron's....

Morons isn't quite the word I'd use to describe them hehe. What the @#$@#$ are these asses thinking... honestly. There are actually real problems they could be working on... things that we could actually do something about and they put all their energy into this crap? It sounds like the plot to a Mel Brooks film lmao.
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Former UN sec-gen Annan calls for 'climate justice'


Former UN secretary general Kofi Annan on Tuesday called for 'climate justice', saying that it was polluters who should pay for the effects of climate change, and not the poorest and most vulnerable.
He said funding should be made available to help disadvantaged communities adapt to the effects of global warming as he urged for the international community to focus on adaptation measures.

"We must have climate justice. As an international community, we must recognise that the polluter must pay and not the poor and vulnerable," said Annan at the first high-level meeting of his new humanitarian forum.

During the two-day conference, the Global Humanitarian Forum brings together luminaries from the worlds of politics, business, diplomacy and development to discuss how best to adapt to climate change -- the issue that Annan has called "one of the most significant humanitarian challenges of our time".


Former UN sec-gen Annan calls for 'climate justice'

These people are complete Moron's....
Our carbon footprint is so small, a baby flea would have to take yoga just to fit in it. We are a glorious example of how a perfect society can reduce its carbon footprint.
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i thought the poor ones were the worst polluters. you mean they have scrubbers too in their flues?
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Well, it looks like Hansen is being paid by Al Gore and John Kerry. lol
This is another corrupt Scientist that has no credibility.

Dr. James Hansen

He is currently an adjunct professor in the Department of Earth and Environmental Sciences at Columbia University, and also serves as Al Gore's science advisor.
Hansen was elected to the National Academy of Sciences in 1996[7] and he received a $250,000 Heinz Environment Award[8] for his research on global warming in 2001.
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