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Old 06-14-2008, 11:10 PM
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sorry seeker. we now have the capability to destroy their missiles before they re-enter the atmosphere.

Thats assuming NORAD is not in charge.
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Old 06-14-2008, 11:34 PM
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The bomb? Just one? I shudder to think how many bombs we would have to drop just to make a dent in that population. I realize I'm over simplifying. But... Whatever goes up in the atmosphere heads straight for the west coast of the USA.

Bad idea
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Old 06-14-2008, 11:38 PM
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What about the Topol RS 12/Topol SS 27 that travels 10,800 mph? Or Supercavitating undersea weapons Supercavitating Torpedo | Popular Science that are pretty hard to detect and can jump above the surface right before the shoreline? Many subs can be deployed just off of our coast and wouldn't need to send their payload too high before hitting their targets anyway.
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Old 06-15-2008, 11:31 AM
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What about the Topol RS 12/Topol SS 27 that travels 10,800 mph? Or Supercavitating undersea weapons Supercavitating Torpedo | Popular Science that are pretty hard to detect and can jump above the surface right before the shoreline? Many subs can be deployed just off of our coast and wouldn't need to send their payload too high before hitting their targets anyway.
the u.s. has two subs for every other sub all nations can field. YYYAAAWWWNNN!. we could handle the world. YYYAAAWWWNNN! we should convoy our registered shipping, and then see who are freinds are.
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Old 06-15-2008, 12:06 PM
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the u.s. has two subs for every other sub all nations can field. YYYAAAWWWNNN!. we could handle the world. YYYAAAWWWNNN! we should convoy our registered shipping, and then see who are freinds are.

Is there any reason that you want to conquer the world Adolph?

You might want to do a little more reasearch before claiming that we can take on the whole world.
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Old 06-15-2008, 08:12 PM
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With all of the things China has done to us in the last few yrs (poisoned food, lead paint on kiddie toys etc) and now I read this today, how is it that we aren't nuking the hell out of that place right now?

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By PETE YOST and LARA JAKES JORDAN

WASHINGTON (AP) - A congressman said Wednesday the FBI has found that four of his government computers have been hacked by sources working out of China.

Rep. Frank Wolf, a Virginia Republican, said that similar incidents - also originating from China - have taken place on computers of other members of the House and at least one House committee.

A spokesman for Wolf said the four computers in his office were being used by staff members working on human rights issues and that the hacking began in August 2006. Wolf is a longtime critic of the Chinese government's human rights record.

The congressman suggested the problem probably goes further. "If it's been done in the House, don't you think that they're doing the same thing in the Senate?" he asked.

"I think this is very bad because you have the Chinese compromising and gaining access to computers of any number of members of the House and a major committee of the House," Wolf told The Associated Press. "We don't know how many others."

Wolf declined to say how many other incidents of congressional computers being compromised he knows about or to identify which House committee he referred to.

In calling for hearings in both the House and Senate, Wolf said there "probably are members serving in Congress whose computers have been compromised and they may not even know it."

Separately, U.S. authorities are investigating whether Chinese officials secretly copied the contents of a government laptop computer during a visit to China by Commerce Secretary Carlos M. Gutierrez and used the information to try to hack into Commerce Department computers.

The FBI declined to comment. In Beijing, the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs had no immediate comment. Last week, China denied the accusations regarding Gutierrez's laptop and the alleged effort to hack Commerce Department computers.

Wolf said he has known about the hacking for a long time but was discouraged from discussing it publicly by people inside U.S. government, whom he refused to identify.

"The problem has been that no one wants to talk about this issue," said Wolf. "Every time I've started to do something I've been told 'You can't do this.' A lot of people have made it very, very difficult."

Wolf plans to introduce a resolution that he says will help ensure protection for all House computers and information systems. In a draft of prepared remarks he planned to deliver on the House floor Wednesday afternoon, Wolf says he is "deeply concerned that Congress is not adequately aware of or protected" from cyber attacks.

"My own suspicion is I was targeted by China because of my long history of speaking out about China's abysmal human rights record," Wolf says in his remarks. He said Congress should hold hearings, specifically the House Intelligence Committee, Armed Services Committee and Government Operations Committee.

Wolf's resolution calls for the chief administrative officer and sergeant at arms of the House, in consultation with the FBI, to alert House members and their staffs to the danger of electronic attacks. He also wants lawmakers to be fully briefed on ways to safeguard official records from electronic security breaches.

Speaking generally in May 2006, Wolf called Chinese spying efforts "frightening" and said it was no secret that the United States is a principal target of Chinese intelligence services.



Bomb China ?

Wal mart would have no merchandise !

Where would red state America shop ?
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Bomb China ?

Wal mart would have no merchandise !

Where would red state America shop ?
Probably at the same Goodwill store where you shop.
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Old 06-15-2008, 09:03 PM
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I believe it could be justified.... spying is an act of war and dropping 3 or 4 nukes over there would make it quick and painless for us
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Spying can't be an act of war, Israel does it all the time, and we do nothing about it.



...casualties for them... catastrophic amounts... casualties for us none (well, except for the people who ate the poisoned food and the kids who ate lead paint) as long as the bombers make it back. War over in 1 day no more enemy. I have seen a trend with China 'accidentally' sending us defective/dangerous products for a few yrs now... Doing it once .. sure shit happens... but after a while it sorta starts looking like it's no accident.
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How can our brilliant representatives in Congress not see this? Fool us once, shame on you - fool us twice, shame on Congress.



The rest of the world already hates us anyway, what are they gonna hate us more?!? And after thinking about it a bit, this would also reduce global demand for oil since china is part of the problem of increasing demand. So in the end, all the protesters could still dust off their signs from the garage that say "No War For Oil" and everyone is happy
Makes too much sense.
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The bomb? Just one? I shudder to think how many bombs we would have to drop just to make a dent in that population. I realize I'm over simplifying. But... Whatever goes up in the atmosphere heads straight for the west coast of the USA.

Bad idea
Actually, I think they would call the loss of CA collateral damage. Or even justifiable losses. LOL
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