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Old 06-09-2008, 03:42 PM
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I think it's a safe bet Virgil's avatar is him. His political views are therefore understandable and a natural consequence.


There's nothing I wrote that Virgil's "Deliverance" polemic disproved or refuted. Its moronic disconcern speaks for itself.

That "31,000 scientists" crap is the denial sceince paid for by souless reactionaries looking to protect their money that it looks like and nothing else. It has been refuted and made to look like the stupid denial science it is many times by credible scientists who don't need to join crank groups to prove their knowledge or position. As if we don't know a cut & paste form denial when we see one shown over and over again no matter what is shown. The main politic on this site is fairly poisonous. But I do give it credit for being an accurate reflection of America and its worst aspects.
Can you provide a link to all the scientist who support the global warming theories? Will that link list the area's of expertise of those scientist?
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Gore’s 10 Errors Old and New (PDF) (Science & Public Policy Institute)
Gore Deserves Nobel Prize for Propaganda (CNSNews)
Gore's guru disagreed (Financial Post, Canada)
The Gore Lies (National Review Online)
The Science of Gore's Nobel (The Wall Street Journal)

Al Gore The Sage (Video) (7min)
Al Gore, Ethanol and the Food Crisis (Video) (7min)

"What a pompous jerk. ...it's time for Al Gore to get over himself." - Jack Cafferty, CNN, 2007

Hypocrite:
Al Gore and Global Warming - Is He a Hypocrite? (Video) (10min)
Al Gore's Gulfstream (Video) (7min)
Al Gore, Environmentalist and Zinc Miner (The Wall Street Journal)
- Environmentalist Gore allowed zinc mine (USA Today)
- From Al to Zinc: Mine Story Shows How a Fatherly Favor Haunts Gore (The Wall Street Journal)
Al Gore, polluter? (WorldNetDaily)
Al Gore Refuses to Take Personal Energy Ethics Pledge (US Senate Environment & Public Works Committee)
Al Gore: Occidental Petroleum Connections (The Wall Street Journal)
Al Gore: The Other Oil Candidate (CorpWatch)
Al Gore's Inconvenient Stock Portfolio Exposed (PR Newswire)
Al Gore's Inconvenient Toxic Waste Dump (NewsMax)
Bush's Ranch House 'Far More Eco-Friendly' Than Gore's (CNSNews)
- George W. Bush's eco-friendly ranch compared to Al Gore's energy-expending mansion = True (Snopes)
Eco-warrior Al Gore serves up endangered fish at daughter's party (Daily Mail, UK)
Gore home's energy use: 20 times average (WorldNetDaily)
- Al Gore's residence uses considerably more energy than the average American home = True (Snopes)
Gore isn't quite as green as he's led the world to believe (USA Today)
Gore's Oil Money (The Nation)
Hypocrite Gore Should Practice What He Preaches (The Tech, MIT)
Integrity in the Balance: Al Gore's Record On the Environment (CorpWatch)
Meet the real Al Gore (WorldNetDaily)
Old-Growth Timber used to Rebuild the Veranda of the Vice Presidential Mansion (Newsweek)
Whose Ox Is Gored? The Former Vice President's Environmental Exaggerations and Hypocrisy (The Wall Street Journal)

Al Gore Pushes 'Pollution Tax' (NewsMax)

Profiteering:
Al Gore Gets Rich ($100 Million) After White House (ABC News)
Al Gore is criticised for lining his own pockets after £3,300 ($6,757) per-minute green speech (Daily Mail, UK)
Al Gore, Maurice Strong: Creators of carbon credit scheme cashing in on it (Canada Free Press)
Gore's 'carbon offsets' paid to firm he owns (WorldNetDaily)
Gore Cashing in on $6 Trillion Energy Business (NewsMax)
Gore makes sustainable investment his business (The Age, Australia)
Gore to Rake in IPO Millions (NewsMax)
Gore Warns on 'Subprime Carbon' Industry (NewsMax)
Global Warming, Inc. (The Wall Street Journal)
Green firm Camco gets Blood and Gore investment (Reuters)
The Money and Connections Behind Al Gore’s Carbon Crusade (Human Events)

Will Not Debate:
Czech President Klaus ready to debate Gore on climate change (The Earth Times)
Dennis T. Avery Challenges Al Gore to a Debate (The Heartland Institute)
Lord Christopher Monckton Challenges Al Gore to a Debate (Center for Science and Public Policy)
Ivy League Professor Bets Al Gore $10,000 He’s Wrong About Global Warming (NewsBusters)
Why Won’t Al Gore Debate? (The Heartland Institute)
Will Al Gore Melt? If not, why did he chicken out on an interview? (The Wall Street Journal)
Sign the Petition: Al Gore, Debate Global Warming (7000+ Signatures)
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Popular Technology -> The Anti "Man-Made" Global Warming Resource

here is the link
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The Republicans managed to sabotage a government effort to establish measures and rules to fight global warming in the US. They fought the effort with their usual obstructionist tactics and managed to defeat the vote to take measures.

Once again the world looks to America as an example and our Republican lobby whores posing as legitimate government turn them away.

We need to have a referendum in this country to review the Republican Party's charter in order to determine if they pose a threat to America. The Republican party should be reviewed to see if it stands as a detriment to the Constitution and America's well-being.
we can start by having more discussion between voters, it still does take a majority vote to elect are political officials, I do have a little faith that after five years of war with 4000 dead a struggling economy, and a infrastructure
woefully unprepared for this very well documented and predicted oil crunch
that the republican voters willl began to question there choices for america
your right the republicans have done this country and the rest of the world a grave disservice and it is now time to suck it up and make amends
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we can start by having more discussion between voters, it still does take a majority vote to elect are political officials, I do have a little faith that after five years of war with 4000 dead a struggling economy, and a infrastructure
woefully unprepared for this very well documented and predicted oil crunch
that the republican voters willl began to question there choices for america
your right the republicans have done this country and the rest of the world a grave disservice and it is now time to suck it up and make amends
Should we all commit mass suicide?
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Should we all commit mass suicide?
yes that is a start, keep thinking i like where your going with this
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You can see that the lunatic fringe right pose this serious world issue in spurious paranoid simple-minded terms and stupid denials.

I like the paranoid gun-clutching right wing kook fear of a UN world government trying to deny them their rights. Anyone who seriously believes that is a moron who believes in redneck beer bar dive John Birch ignorance.


This country isn't progressive. It's a self-absorbed false democracy where money makers have deluded the intellectually-lacking into believing that their best interests are served with defensive paranoia that just so happens to benefit those promoting it.

In the end America shows its true face as the backwards, progress-fighting, money-centered false republic it is. None of those responses are very swift or honest.
That is what the left always says when science and common sense trump their reactionist and "global harmony" views. It does not matter what the true science is all that matters is how we "look" to the rest of the world.

Well lets face it, the rest of the world wants to be more like the USA. Look at China and India, now the worlds biggest polluters but not a single effort is made to get them to stop their "global warming" practices. They constantly get a pass on environmental issues.

The US tries to do what the market will bear such as propose to build wind and solar farms only to be blocked by environmentalist at every turn. People are dying because of liberal environmental wacko theories and lobbied laws.

I guess only the Republicans cannot have lobbyist but Democrats can.

So typical.
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FACT: The temperature has only increased 0.6°C in the last 100 years (IPCC)

"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT

America Must Reject Global Warming 'De-Stimulus' Bill (United States Senator James Inhofe)

With the release of Al Gore's propaganda movie 'An Inconvenient Truth' and with the help of the liberal media establishments the public has been driven into a mass hysteria based not on science but lies. You will learn that there is no scientific proof that man-made CO2 is the cause of the mild 0.6c increase in temperature over the last 100 years, Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is not pollution, pollution has nothing to do with global warming, Al Gore and his movie are a fraud, there is no consensus on the cause of global warming, the earth has been warmer in the past then it is today, the land based temperature stations are positively biased, Antarctica is not melting, Arctic sea ice cannot effect sea level, sea levels are rising milimeters not feet, computer climate models are irrelevant, polar bears are not endangered or dying, droughts, hurricanes, tornadoes and wildfires are not caused by global warming and there is extensive evidence of natural causes for global warming such as increased solar activity and orbital variations.

Spread the Truth - Email this page to everyone you know: Popular Technology -> The Anti "Man-Made" Global Warming Resource

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.”
- Joseph Goebbels, Nazi Propaganda Minister

Cap-and-Trade Could Cost the Average Family $10,800 in Lost Income (US Newswire)

$ - Electricity prices could jump 65% by 2015
$ - Gasoline prices could jump 37% by 2020

Big Brother to control thermostats in homes? (WorldNetDaily)
- California Seeks Thermostat Control (The New York Times)


Videos:

20/20: Give Me a Break: Global Warming (Video) (8min)

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Video) (1hr 14min)

CNN: Exposed: Climate of Fear (Video) (42min)

Bullshit! - Environmental Hysteria (Video) (29min)

CBC: Documentary: Doomsday Called Off (Video) (44min)

George Carlin - The Planet is Fine (Adults Only) (Video) (8min)

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AGW: (Anthropogenic [Man-Made] Global Warming)

"More informed respondents both feel less personally responsible for global warming, and also show less concern for global warming" - 2008 Texas A&M University Study

Climate of Fear (Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT)
The Case for Skepticism on Global Warming (Michael Crichton, A.B. Anthropology, M.D. Harvard)
Climate chaos? Don't believe it (Christopher Monckton, The Daily Telegraph, UK)
Um, I hate to break this to you CHEF, but truth and facts mean nothing to the Liberal Left. Its all about how you FEEL that counts, and the Left "feels" that the good ol' US of A is evil and using more than our fair share.

So instead of focusing on how to help the rest of the world rise up to Western economic success, they focus on tearing us down to go back to where the undeveloped nations are. But of course they fail to inform you that undeveloped nations are busy trying to elevate themselves past what we have built. China and India are the biggest examples of this. Hell, even Russia is adopting western thought in their economics and they are building their nation by following the western template.

So I guess the left will not be happy until we are the undeveloped nation and others like India and even Bangladesh end up being the industrial leaders of the world.
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yes that is a start, keep thinking i like where your going with this
But then who would fix the global warming problem???
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reccles has informed us that liberals have stopped noble efforts by the establishment to develop solar power. Oh I didn't realize this. I guess we can just forget the huge track record of stymi-ing alternative energy and Bush's undermining of all alternative energy development and funding in service to the corporations whose Christmas list his administration has been serving through its existence? I never realized the whole problem was liberals blocking solar progress. Thanks for enlightening me.
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