The un is crap ALL The time. NOt when you want it to be.

Nothing that has ever come out of it is worth shit. GET THE FUCK OUT OF IT.

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Cussing out low class inbreds isnt uninteligent, its honest

Good typing is not inteligent its dexiteritous.

Everything you just said is total bullshit

Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V8Ek...eature=related

As far as the Iraq war goes...this argument that if I knew then what I knew now is a bunch of bullshit...on a number of levels...

What about those who were basically run out on a rail by the administration for trying to tell them what would happen...that which did?

What about the Bush/Cheney/RumDum response that they would have done it anyway?

What about the fact that Bush Sr and Scowcroft predicted we would be in the mess we are in?

Nope, I spent too much time in discussion with too many people who called me all sorts of things for trying to tell them what would happen that eventually did happen to buy into the if I knew then what I know now bullshit...fuck that.

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"All the problems we face in the United States today can be traced to an unenlightened immigration policy on the part of the American Indian."

Pat Paulsen for President

Besides that, Comrade Shit; Bush lied and people died. Bush went to war when glorious peoples Democratic Sen. Hillary (wife of god) Clinton demanded that we not go to war. Bush never got approval from congress - and if he did it was because he tricked all the way smart Democrats. Bush is stupid.

I agree with you comrade, the only truth is the truth of DailyKos.

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Obama - Chavez '08, working to make America more like Cuba!

Our increasingly craven business interests would defend Hitler if he made them money and gave them tax breaks.

Shows how arrogant those bastards are.


Good post "shittinme'. These people are just ignoring whatever they like. No use trying to convince liars.

If you are the President of anything be it a company or whatever and you have people who don't believe in the same business model that you believe in then are you going to keep them on? While they can give suggestions and offer insights, the bottom line is that YOU are the President. If you have people who aren't following your wishes then yes, they will get replaced. Welcome to the real world. P.S. It happens in every Presidential Administration. Clinton's, Reagan's, Carter's etc... People come and go.

I am not familiar with what Bush Sr. had said (or didn't say) and I don't comment on thigns I'm not aware of. I'll look that up at some point and get back to you. Fair enough?

If you think your DailyKos rant and referring to the Damnocraps or that Clinton guy who you think is god is going to impress me you are sadly mistaken...that son of a bitch either lied or was too fucking stupid to know how to smoke a joint...give me a break...

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"All the problems we face in the United States today can be traced to an unenlightened immigration policy on the part of the American Indian."

Pat Paulsen for President

Thanks...believe me, I've been doing this for too many years to have retained any delusions of making progress with the ostrich-ized.

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"All the problems we face in the United States today can be traced to an unenlightened immigration policy on the part of the American Indian."

Pat Paulsen for President

I can't speak as President but having been a Vice President of a corporation I can tell you that I had no use for just a bunch of "yes" men/women.

Here, let me save you the keystrokes...

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Pat Paulsen for President

SteveK. You seem very sincere in reply and I can respect that. However, I do not feel that many, including historians will view this Presidency kindly. There are many reasons I feel this way, and I tried to list them all, but the computer kept logging me out. So, let me just touch on a few.

I feel we are much less safe than we were before 9/11. One of those reasons that many don't touch on, I feel will be our inability to maintain/retain military when needed. Let's face it, if people feel that a Presidency has misused our military (and at present I believe many do), they will not encourage their children to enlist.

Another reason I don't think he will be kindly on is because he is a terrible military leader. He was arrogant, refused to listen to advisors that he picked, and then weeded out anyone who might know what they were doing and got rid of them.

Then you touch on the surge. A little to little and little to late. Sorry, but you see the surge working. I don't. It was supposed to be VERY temporary, and we are at over a year. Bush is again wanting to stop the drawdown. The only way it could be considered "successful" in my book, is if it had accomplished our mission COMPLETELY in the allotted time, and the majority of our troops were home or on their way.

Good points. here is where we can part ways:

For those people who ACTUALLY go to Iraq and see the improvements for themselves be they writers or Democrats, Republicans and Independents they see a transformed country. It obviously isn't perfect but hell have you been to Detroit lately? There was a very liberal Congressman from Colorado and his name escapes me currently who wrote an article on the improvements made and was basically ostracized from the liberal elite because he dared report the progress he saw with his own eyes. Nancy Pelosi also begrudgingly gave some positive feedback on a trip recently taken to that region (not the Syria trip) and I had posted that article here but again in the elite media you won't hear about it because progress in Iraq does not get far-left Liberals elected and the media - for the most part - are far-left liberals.

Prior to 9/11 we were attacked in 1983 in which a suicide bomber killed dozens of American military men. We saw airlines get hi-jacked most notably the TWA flight of 184-85 and of course PanAm over Lockerbee, Scotland killing a bunch of college kids from Syracuse. We saw in 1992 the 1st bombing of the World Trade Center and several bombings of our interest overseas in places like Africa and Indonesia. In the late '90's the madness continued with the attack on the U.S.S. Cole. Now the thing to remember is that through all of this there was limited if any military response with the exception of Reagan going after Khadafy. Besides that however, Reagan, Bush Sr. & Clinton didn't do a hell of a lot about terrorism. After the Towers, the Pentagon and Flight #93 were attacked on 9/11 (I was 5-6 blocks away from the Towers that day) Bush basically said enough and put in place some policies that had to transform the CIA and other intelligence services from acting in a 'Cold War' mode to a Terrorism mode. Since 9/11 there have been no successful attacks on American soil and the argument can be made that the majority of the terrorists are over in Iraq and Afganistan where our heroic men and women are fighting. Do I think America is safer than before 9/11? Yes and no. Yes because that bubble of invincibility that we had been living in was shattered and we realized very quickly (& suddenly) that waters no longer separate madmen. Gov't agencies are working together with cause more efficently than before but there is such beuracracy that it'll probably never be perfect. In other ways I don't think we're safer because there are still far too many politicians on both sides of the aisle more interested than their own power and career than they are of protecting our borders because pandering equals votes form the Hispanic Community and also equals future voters. So, until the bullshit stops regarding the border, it will be very easy for terrorists and others to sneak in with impunity. You can't have border officers rotting in jail for doing their jobs which is happening. People I don't think realize the true threat that extremists truly are and seem more concerned about Gitmo and Abu-Garib and the rule rather than the exception which is an insult to all soldiers.

As far as the surge being "too little, too late" you are right and wrong. You are right in the sense that unfortunately, it took 4 years too long to find the right man for that particular job. Patreaus is the right man for the job despite what the piggish, racist,elitest far-left idealolgs will tell you. You never quit a ball game until the final out or until the clocks stops. It is a war and every war will have trials and errors (read something on WWII). There are some good things happening and I try to post them here. Stop listening to MSNBC and CNN. Read up. Ask and don't let anyone intimidate you.

yes, I'm concerned at the way this war has evolved and too many have died that didn't need too. However, there really is too much at stake to pull out because if you want to see some real chaos and massacres and more mass graves, then do as Obama wants to do and pull out.