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05-19-2008, 07:49 PM
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EPA Fails to Protect Consumers Again by Ripping Labels Off Pesticides
Let’s imagine a world without warnings, or guides and a universe filled with safe products and do good business’ whose sole ambition is not profitability but the betterment of mankind. O.K now that we finished our little journey into la al land we can now ask ourselves and our dear friends at the EPA if they were lost in la la land when deciding to distribute pesticide labels electronically, in lieu of traditional labeling. Yes - you read it right. The EPA is planning on pulling all labels off pesticides, including instructions for proper use. The move clearly is raising more than a few eye brows. Are pesticide companies trying to save all the trees used for labels? What possible “do good spin” can they put on this absurd decision?
“Benefits from using this system will include faster access to new pesticide uses, quicker implementation of protective measures for public health and the environment, improved compliance with label directions, and lower costs for industry and EPA,” the agency said May 12 in a statement on its pesticides website. Well, we believe the last part. The utterly absurd system will rely on users to contact either the pesticide labeling website or a toll-free telephone number to obtain the detailed-use instructions that previously were attached to pesticide containers, EPA said. So let me just get this straight - their method of protecting public health is by removing labels off toxic chemicals and asking consumers to call toll free numbers or access web site? Huh? Are they installing phones and access to the web at every retail location? What am I missing here?
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05-19-2008, 08:07 PM
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IF this is true, it is probably the stupidest idea they have come up with. However, paper labels are not always helpful, and are often ruined before the consumer receives the product. Although I do know a lot of people that would use a poisonous product without instructions on proper use and discarding, would you actually do it?
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05-19-2008, 08:14 PM
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Yes, kinda like don't use a Snowblower on the Roof...let me know when you need your Diaper changed.
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05-19-2008, 08:18 PM
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& let me guess ...
the people in charge of disseminating this life-or-death info will be --- Diebold! Yes, the v. same people who gave you RoboVote (their CEO was a Pioneer for BushCo. - folks, it doesn't get much more outre than this! Sure, a vote for Gore - or Kerry - or ... is magically transformed in the box into a vote for Shrub Bush, or ...)
& think legislation can open the black box & @ least try to make it tamper-proof? No, no, my friend, you're living in the blessed past - pre-Civil War, when poor court reporting magically transformed Corporates - which had theretofore been strictly limited in temporal duration & capitalization - into Presto! Change-o! "individuals" under color of law! With full rights, thank you very much.
So no! You cannot force Diebold or whoever to open up their "trade secrets." Never mind that the fate of the republic is teetering on a razor's blade edge, & the whole edifice is apt to topple into absurdity, chaos & ruin. No, never, let it all fall! The rights of Corps must be upheld, to the death of the fool government that spawned them. Sic transit gloria mundi!
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05-19-2008, 09:04 PM
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The EPA is a prime example of just how ignorant government agencies are..........
Look up TERMITES and the amount of damage they do per year. Then look up CHLORDANE (A banned chemical). Then look up the year it was banned and cross referenece termite damage while it was still used to the present year....
Furthermore, when Chlordane was banned (on the last of many attempts) notice the legislature disallowed human testing scientific data that was, in all previous attempts to ban it allowed inside those hearings. It was ruled that human testing data was inhumane thus not allowed in hearing even though the data was done back when it was legal!
This is how our EPA works to remove perfectly safe chemicals that WORK and introduce new ones that do not work as well and often cause us more harm...
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05-19-2008, 09:49 PM
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This crap all started with Reagan.
Washington is just a front office for corporate America.
We have a government problem.
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05-19-2008, 10:33 PM
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Attack rappers over swearing, Athletes over drugs, but let food, drug, and chemicals companies without labels?
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05-19-2008, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by dirtyp
Let’s imagine a world without warnings, or guides and a universe filled with safe products and do good business’ whose sole ambition is not profitability but the betterment of mankind. O.K now that we finished our little journey into la al land we can now ask ourselves and our dear friends at the EPA if they were lost in la la land when deciding to distribute pesticide labels electronically, in lieu of traditional labeling. Yes - you read it right. The EPA is planning on pulling all labels off pesticides, including instructions for proper use. The move clearly is raising more than a few eye brows. Are pesticide companies trying to save all the trees used for labels? What possible “do good spin” can they put on this absurd decision?
“Benefits from using this system will include faster access to new pesticide uses, quicker implementation of protective measures for public health and the environment, improved compliance with label directions, and lower costs for industry and EPA,” the agency said May 12 in a statement on its pesticides website. Well, we believe the last part. The utterly absurd system will rely on users to contact either the pesticide labeling website or a toll-free telephone number to obtain the detailed-use instructions that previously were attached to pesticide containers, EPA said. So let me just get this straight - their method of protecting public health is by removing labels off toxic chemicals and asking consumers to call toll free numbers or access web site? Huh? Are they installing phones and access to the web at every retail location? What am I missing here?
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Gee Whiz....why would the Bush Administration EPA do something like this? Could it have anything to do with Bush putting his cronnies in every major Govt Agency???? 
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05-19-2008, 10:48 PM
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Gee Whiz....why would the Bush Administration EPA do something like this? Could it have anything to do with Bush putting his cronnies in every major Govt Agency????
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Give up that argument. Ignorant people think the president is the single reason absolutely everything happens. In many ways the president is powerless compared to congress. Under Clinton the EPA was equally, maybe worse than under Bush. Fact remains Clinton nor Bush really had a damn thing to do with the screw up's of the EPA OSHA or many other agencies. EPA is it's own breed with essentially nobody to answer to. Like many other rogue agencies with tons of power and a shitload of corruption. No president can sit over and watch every agencies leader on every issue nor should they be expected to.
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05-19-2008, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Tileman
Give up that argument. Ignorant people think the president is the single reason absolutely everything happens. In many ways the president is powerless compared to congress. Under Clinton the EPA was equally, maybe worse than under Bush. Fact remains Clinton nor Bush really had a damn thing to do with the screw up's of the EPA OSHA or many other agencies. EPA is it's own breed with essentially nobody to answer to. Like many other rogue agencies with tons of power and a shitload of corruption. No president can sit over and watch every agencies leader on every issue nor should they be expected to.
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What! Are you fucking stupid? The EPA is ran and managed by elected Bush officials. The Bush Admin. hire their own cronies to run every major federal agency. If Bush doesn't like the heat and responsibility he shouldn't have ran for a 2nd term.
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