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Old 05-21-2008, 12:26 AM
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No. there are no present medications used for epilepsy that would show up on a normal toxicology nor controlled substances report. Those are not tested unless they are specifically targetted... Also, NO epileptic medication that I am aware of has been linked to any physically eratic behavior. What I mean is that the present epileptic medications should NOT be any factor to that persons irratic behavior unless that person has STOPPED using a medication against a doctors orders.

FYI- Most epileptic medications are so DAMN STRONG that a person not use to taking those meds in that high quantity would likely DIE from a single dosage! Those medications requires a long peroid to build up a tolerance and must also be taken out of the system over a period of time without serious negative recourse.

FYI- My exwife endured the removal of 16 EEG strips (latex coated ribbons with magents on them) from inside her cranial cap (means strips laid on top of the brain iteself underneath the skull) with morphine and Demerol. During that 30 minute process she was given 20CC of Morphine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! To most people (including drug addicts) that would be a massive over dose and certain death! But to an epileptic that is use to taking so much medication it was not a problem because their system is use to it!

That should give you some some idea how strong some epileptic medications really are!
I was on Dilatin for 9 years for mis-dx of epileptic seizures.
I remember the EEGs all too well.
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Old 05-21-2008, 08:01 AM
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I am not defending the police, since I was not there to witness the play by play of events. I did however jump all over the notion someone made claiming a seizure cannot be mistaken as a physical attack. Perhaps the police screwed up badly! Perhaps they acted appropriately under the circumstances!

I do however take serious offense at the quick reaction people take that automatically make the Police instantly guilty by public opinion until they are proved innocent. The same holds true with our servicemen and women wearing military uniform. Automatically guilty by public opinion has got to stop. A great deal of public opinion being so fast to cast guilt is how a story is portrayed or written which leads the viewer/reader intentionally one direction or the other, often times having so few facts.
No it is not the same. We have far too many witnesses and video of police being less than "friendly" to citizens of this country on a regular basis and rarely does a cop go punished.

We have given these people more power than they should have. They can ride rough shod over the Constitution and get away with it. They can use excessive force and get away with it.

Trust me, if you or I used that taser on that kid because we thought he was harming us, we would be sued and we would lose in court. But put a badge on someone and they now have special rights and we allow it.

So the next time a person with a badge and an attitude roughs you up you will know why.

As for arresting someone, that does not mean you are guilty of anything. And frankly if someone were harming me for no reason, badge or not, I am going to defend myself, it is my right as an American and a human being. Period.
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No it is not the same. We have far too many witnesses and video of police being less than "friendly" to citizens of this country on a regular basis and rarely does a cop go punished.

We have given these people more power than they should have. They can ride rough shod over the Constitution and get away with it. They can use excessive force and get away with it.

Trust me, if you or I used that taser on that kid because we thought he was harming us, we would be sued and we would lose in court. But put a badge on someone and they now have special rights and we allow it.

So the next time a person with a badge and an attitude roughs you up you will know why.

As for arresting someone, that does not mean you are guilty of anything. And frankly if someone were harming me for no reason, badge or not, I am going to defend myself, it is my right as an American and a human being. Period.
You bring up some very valid points. I have ran into some officers that think that badge makes them God. However, I also know many that work within the law. It is a tough job. I cannot imagine having daily contact with the addicts, abusers, thiefs, murderers, rapists. I cannot imagine facing tragedies on a regular basis. Somewhere along the line, it simply has to skew your thought processes, don't you think
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