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05-20-2008, 02:39 PM
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What kind of slack ass cop can't subdue a 16 year old boy?
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I was married to an epileptic for 9 years and not only recognized her siezures but sometimes able to predict them moments before they happened. Even with that knowledge there were a couple of times I did wonder if she was seizing or attacking me!
Live with an epileptic long enough and you will recognize not all seizures are the same day in day out. Not all seizures force a collapse to the ground. Not all effected both sides of the body. Sometimes it was only hands flying about. No way in hell can anyone convince me it's not possible to mistake a seizure for an attack. I've been there, I've lived it and others have witnessed it.
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05-20-2008, 04:51 PM
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If the cops stop to psychoanalyze everyone they come in contact with, it would be chaos. I say, rough em' and cuff em'.
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Has anyone ever noticed the relationship between answers like this one and the lack of any inclusion of the intelligent parts of the discussion?
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05-20-2008, 05:47 PM
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I was married to an epileptic for 9 years and not only recognized her siezures but sometimes able to predict them moments before they happened. Even with that knowledge there were a couple of times I did wonder if she was seizing or attacking me!
Live with an epileptic long enough and you will recognize not all seizures are the same day in day out. Not all seizures force a collapse to the ground. Not all effected both sides of the body. Sometimes it was only hands flying about. No way in hell can anyone convince me it's not possible to mistake a seizure for an attack. I've been there, I've lived it and others have witnessed it.
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The seizure was obviously bad enough for the brother, whom was there and was informing the police that it was a seizure, to have called for an ambulance. And in actuality, when the ambulance was called for, surely the dispatcher relayed that it was an epileptic seizure, so both the police and the paramedics should have been prepared for this.
Certainly not all seizures are the same. My grandmother suffered with grand-maul's. She was particularly belligerent when coming out of one, but totally unaware of what she was doing. I would have seriously tried to hurt anyone that would have tasered her during one of her seizures.
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05-20-2008, 05:59 PM
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The seizure was obviously bad enough for the brother, whom was there and was informing the police that it was a seizure, to have called for an ambulance.
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I am not defending the police, since I was not there to witness the play by play of events. I did however jump all over the notion someone made claiming a seizure cannot be mistaken as a physical attack. Perhaps the police screwed up badly! Perhaps they acted appropriately under the circumstances!
I do however take serious offense at the quick reaction people take that automatically make the Police instantly guilty by public opinion until they are proved innocent. The same holds true with our servicemen and women wearing military uniform. Automatically guilty by public opinion has got to stop. A great deal of public opinion being so fast to cast guilt is how a story is portrayed or written which leads the viewer/reader intentionally one direction or the other, often times having so few facts.
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05-20-2008, 06:07 PM
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I am not defending the police, since I was not there to witness the play by play of events. I did however jump all over the notion someone made claiming a seizure cannot be mistaken as a physical attack. Perhaps the police screwed up badly! Perhaps they acted appropriately under the circumstances!
I do however take serious offense at the quick reaction people take that automatically make the Police instantly guilty by public opinion until they are proved innocent. The same holds true with our servicemen and women wearing military uniform. Automatically guilty by public opinion has got to stop. A great deal of public opinion being so fast to cast guilt is how a story is portrayed or written which leads the viewer/reader intentionally one direction or the other, often times having so few facts.
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Innocent until proven guilty!!!!!!!! What a novel idea.
I have nothing but respect for most police officers, and anyone willing to wear a public service uniform for that matter. However, given what little info I have garnered from this so far, I do believe (at this time) that the police may have gotten it wrong.
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05-20-2008, 06:28 PM
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I say slap the cuffs on anyone you cannot control and work out the whining later. I am not for out of control cops, I just like to see them rough people up sometimes. Kind of makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.....ya' know.
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05-20-2008, 06:30 PM
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Innocent until proven guilty!!!!!!!! What a novel idea.
I have nothing but respect for most police officers, and anyone willing to wear a public service uniform for that matter. However, given what little info I have garnered from this so far, I do believe (at this time) that the police may have gotten it wrong.
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of course you believe the cops got it wrong because you are a fucking moron who has never went a few rounds with a crazy and/or out of control person. Ignorant ass.
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05-20-2008, 06:33 PM
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of course you believe the cops got it wrong because you are a fucking moron who has never went a few rounds with a crazy and/or out of control person. Ignorant ass.
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Your funny. You know nothing about me and are making assumptions. A "few rounds" was shit in the world I grew up in chump.
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05-20-2008, 09:07 PM
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Yeah, as a person who has a deal of experience "Going a few rounds" as you put it, I can't see them justifying the kid being tased unless he was a giant, let alone 12 times, seizure or not.
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05-20-2008, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Tileman
I was married to an epileptic for 9 years and not only recognized her siezures but sometimes able to predict them moments before they happened. Even with that knowledge there were a couple of times I did wonder if she was seizing or attacking me!
Live with an epileptic long enough and you will recognize not all seizures are the same day in day out. Not all seizures force a collapse to the ground. Not all effected both sides of the body. Sometimes it was only hands flying about. No way in hell can anyone convince me it's not possible to mistake a seizure for an attack. I've been there, I've lived it and others have witnessed it.
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1. The police found a pot pipe in his shorts.
2. He should have been wearing a medical braclet.
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