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05-17-2008, 10:14 PM
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There's so much to respond to. He thinks he's a hero to the libs. Aside from Sheehan, he will be disregarded by that lard ass Murtha. The rest of the libs in Congress could care less whether this deserter lives or dies.
So he refuses to fulfill his duty. I don't think he was drafted into the Armed Forces, so it seems the Military should make an example of this turd.
Here's where it get interesting. If I were the Military I would place him in the toughest brig, and make this ass wish he was a towel head in Gitmo. I would make his defense attorney prove the war is illegal. He's made a claim, so prove it. for a number of years libs have been allowed to make the same claim, and never offer proof.
If indeed the war is illegal, then Bush and Cheney would be in a Federal pen, wearing soap on a rope. But either this is a legal or its not. Either the libs who claim Bush is stupid, are dumber than he is, and it is still an illegal war and Bush is getting away with it, or it is and has been conducted with every measure of compliance within the framework of the Constitution. At which case the libs are still dummies.
His claim reminds me of a point not yet picked up on Obama and his church. There are thousands of members who heard Wright state the govt invented AIDs so as to kill off blacks. Now these people sit there and listen, knowing they have the ear of a US Senator whom they could ask to investigate these charges. But no one is of the mind to do this. Meanwhile the US Senator doesn't take the initiative to spearhead an investigation on his own.
Now based upon that, these are by far the dumbest church members since Jim Jones' congregation. And the head dummy is Obama.
My point is this. Libs are allowed to make false statements, and are never challenged to prove it. So the claim lingers out there and becomes an urban legend.
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05-17-2008, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Jetblast
He's a hero to me. Only cowards sit back and let their emperor lie about WMD's in pure violation of what our country is supposed to represent.
The people currently in charge of our government had to lie and torture to get what they wanted.
I don't have to explain how poor an American one is if one thinks liberal-baiting answers for what this brave soldier is talking about.
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I hope should you ever need your hero to cover your six, there pal, he serves you like he did this nation.
I really do. You deserve it for your hero worship, and perhaps man crush for this pathetic loser.
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05-17-2008, 10:27 PM
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I would make his defense attorney prove the war is illegal. He's made a claim, so prove it. for a number of years libs have been allowed to make the same claim, and never offer proof.
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It takes real balls for filthy neo-fascist phony American patriot Nazis to demand proof that the war was illegal when the illegal cause for the war - the WMD's - wasn't met with the same demand from these people. These types of blind "patriots" would serve just as faithfully under the Nazis, Soviets, or any other authoritarian force. Mindless war mongers who don't question their authorities is not what America is about. I suggest you read the Constitution and about the founding of this country and try to comprehend why our founding fathers felt it important to keep the government under check and balance control. Brute war-head jingoists are not helpful to our society.
As I said it takes real balls for crude brutes to demand proof while the whole time the WMD proof was never asked for and never given. The invasion of another country on false premises is an international war crime that the US has signed onto in international treaties. Because we have a jingo-ized public from 9-11 and a corrupt government and media doesn't change anything. Meanwhile our nation is SO corrupted that the proof that does exist that Bush premeditatively lied to get us into the Plan for A New American Century (sounds like a cheesy corporate slogan) is pushed aside while people act like it doesn't exist. These are the same people who ask you to prove TWA Flight 800 was shot down by missiles - the whole time ignoring that the evidence was criminally suppressed by that very same government.
You people are cowards and false Americans. May you suffer the fate for that.
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05-17-2008, 10:32 PM
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Imagine if soldiers actually found out the truth that they are not serving their country but an elite group of rich men that manipulate the world?
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Wow dude. That's so deep and insightful. When you read this shit do you do cartwheels if they tell you t as well?
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05-17-2008, 10:36 PM
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I hope should you ever need your hero to cover your six, there pal, he serves you like he did this nation.
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What is glaringly apparent here is the fact that you don't comprehend that this man IS "covering my six" by standing up to rotten cowards and crooks in government.
God save us when this country and its future are decided by morons like you and that stupid grunt jargon and the complete lack of intelligence, morals, and scruples that goes along with it. If covering my six means accepting you Bush Nazis as my protectors, thanks but no thanks, I'll do it myself. Our country will be less damaged that way.
I suggest before you take a swaggering position defending America you find out what it's about first. Fox stupidity won't get you there.
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05-17-2008, 10:40 PM
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Matthis Chiroux is the kind of young American US military recruiters love.
“I was from a poor, white family from the south, and I did badly in school,” the now 24-year-old told AFP.
“I was ‘filet mignon’ for recruiters. They started phoning me when I was in 10th grade,” or around 16 years old, he added.
Chiroux joined the US army straight out of high school nearly six years ago, and worked his way up from private to sergeant.
He served in Afghanistan, Germany, Japan, and the Philippines and was due to be deployed next month in Iraq.
On Thursday, he refused to go, saying he considers Iraq an illegal war.
“I stand before you today with the strength and clarity and resolve to declare to the military, my government and the world that this soldier will not be deploying to Iraq,” Chiroux said in the sun-filled rotunda of a congressional building in Washington.
US soldier refuses to serve in ‘illegal Iraq war’ | War On You
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Matthis Chiroux is one of a new generation of Southern White men, who has come to understand his region and his people have nothing to show for their loyalty to the Republican party for the past 40 years, but broken promises of trickle down benifits, and the lowest standard of living in America, and is refusing nto be a useful idiot
He is an American hero, and young men like him, are turning the south "purple" and "blue"
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05-17-2008, 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Jetblast
What is glaringly apparent here is the fact that you don't comprehend that this man IS "covering my six" by standing up to rotten cowards and crooks in government.
God save us when this country and its future are decided by morons like you and that stupid grunt jargon and the complete lack of intelligence, morals, and scruples that goes along with it. If covering my six means accepting you Bush Nazis as my protectors, thanks but no thanks, I'll do it myself. Our country will be less damaged that way.
I suggest before you take a swaggering position defending America you find out what it's about first. Fox stupidity won't get you there.
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He's more likely going to plug your six, than cover it. It sounds like your life is as pathetic as his. Besides he's a fool, no one will give a rats ass about his stand. Especially libs like you. You know this, so admit you are a fake, phony , and a fraud. And a really dumb lib also.
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05-18-2008, 06:37 AM
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Or possibly, he just doesn't believe in the war, and would prefer not to risk his life in it.
As far as the military being a "social program," they promote it that way. I never see an Army commercial that says, "Go Army. Possibly get Killed!"
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Then he shouldn't have signed up. It's not like we haven't been dealing with this Iraqi shit for the last 6 years. Oh wait, yes we have.
But I will agree, the recruiters are dicks and sucker young kids into things. At my local mall they like to hang around all the places the kids hang out. Game rooms and certain stores. It's pretty disgusting actually. All recruiters are dirtbags and I wouldn't put anything past them.
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05-18-2008, 06:46 AM
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Wow dude. That's so deep and insightful. When you read this shit do you do cartwheels if they tell you t as well?
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Well let's see.....Our last run in you made a post in which you said one thing but then later claimed to mean something else. We'll assume the same applies here.
Dont waste your time posting to me. Like Dom1, You're a much better candidate for watching TV.
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05-18-2008, 07:38 AM
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Liberals taught us it's suppose to be called a police action if congress has not voted and pass a declaration of war. Also every job has a job description and if you do not do your job it's grounds for termination and/or punishment through a legal system depending upon the contract signed at the time of employment.
Advertisements you say? I never saw a social program being promoted that said *We will take more of your money through taxation and give it to lazy people*! So, in the tit-for-tat world, don't throw stones while you live in a glass house!
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Why all the belly-aching over this guy! Just replace him with a brain-washed conservatards who only needs some deep seeded DNA triggering mechanism to become a murderer any way! Afterall to a conservatard serving in Iraq...those Iraqi's are only "Mudd People", Sand Niggers, and Rag Heads.
Point is, there plenty of young men and women voting Republicans who want mind being used for cannon fodder to die in the Bush and McCain KILLING FIELDS.
McCain just sent out a memo to all child bearing age conservative women.... KEEP YOUR LEGS OPEN AND "KEEP SPITTING OUT CONSERVATIVE SON'S AND DAUGHTERS", we need them as cannon fodder so Republican voting War Profittering Defense Contractors and Oil Barons can continue to make 10's of Billions of dollars from the deaths of maiming of young republican voting military members.. 
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