Originally Posted by A. Crowley

No new refineries were needed.

Even today, existing facilities never run at maximum capacity.

Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45

It was Joseph Kennedy, not Ted, however the question remains.

Secondly, since President Bush never mentioned anyone by name is it possible that Barak (Don't call me Hussein) Obama is being a tad paranoid? Or is it guilt??

Originally Posted by itsplayed

Of course it's plainly obvious going by Obama's knee jerk reaction to Bush's comments, is that one of the first orders of business for Obama should he become President of the US, is to go out and kiss Ahminitforthejihad's ass.

Originally Posted by Amazed

Your condescension is noted...

1. Government Rev... Silly old man, what about the man who gets up to go to work everyday, busts his ass and still can't make it, what about him?

You would talking of me, what about me? I am my own responsibility. If I can't afford something, I don't buy it. I want no handouts from my Government.

CEO Salaries (and I work closely with different CEO's and know what they produce and that is little) has gone up 300% and the average American's raise is usually enough to cover inflation. THAT IS WHAT HAS CAUSED THIS MASSIVE RECESSION the destruction of the middle class... WHO AREN"T BUYING and ours is a BUYING ECONOMY.

CEO Salaries do not cause recessions. Now....we aren't in recession.

Look, I know the economy is weak. But if it never has a down quarter, then it never went into a recession. Here is what Robert Hall, who heads the recession-dating committee at the National Bureau of Economic Research, said yesterday: "It seems unlikely that we would ever declare a peak date when real GDP continued to rise."

You have to admit that given $120-a-barrel oil, a severe housing recession, and a nasty credit crunch, it is quite amazing that America's growth machine is running at all right now. And it is just as amazing that damage from the housing and credit crunch has been relatively confined to those sectors, as important as they are. As market strategist Ed Yardeni notes this morning (boldface mine):

So, What Is a Recession? - Capital Commerce (usnews.com)

Could it happen? Sure, but it hasn't, yet. You could confiscate the salaries of all CEO's in this Nation and still not dent Poverty.

2. I did challenge you concerning your party... I said that it is ruined and in shambles. You didn't correct me on this point so I would have to assume that you agree with me.

Again, you made a statement, you asked no question, you do see the difference, don't you? I would heartily agree, they have walked away from the Reagan principles, when they return to them we will once again regain power. You show your youth by not understanding the cyclical nature of Politics.

3. JFK never would have gone into Iraq... Zero Chance... Also, if he had lived he would have ended the Vietnam War quickly "In the end its war they have to win it..." JFK I'm sure he would have applied this same pressure to the civil war raging about in Iraq today.

You will excuse if I don't ascribe to your speculations??

President Kennedy came into office with a belief that America could and should shape the destiny of the world's developing countries. Vietnam, however, was not primarily what he had in mind. Vietnam was not on the president's list of priorities nor was it discussed as key issues at the transition meeting between Kennedy and President Eisenhower. Indeed, Kennedy remarked in the middle of his administration, after Vietnam had become a more urgent issue, "You know, Eisenhower never mentioned it, never uttered the word Vietnam."

President Kennedy believed that the instability of developing countries demanded new approaches. Kennedy was especially taken by the analysis of MIT economist Walt W. Rostow, who believed that all nations followed the same general path of economic and social development. He argued that nations became unstable as the reached the phase he called "modernization."

The Kennedy administration was guided in part by this modernization model as it considered a way to protect South Vietnam while help it throughout the stages of economic growth. Most of Kennedy's advisers believed that South Vietnam was not in danger. As Robert McNamara, Secretary of Defense said once, "North Vietnam will never beat us. They can't even make ice cubes."

VietnamWar.com:Vietnam War - President John F. Kennedy's Role in the Vietnam War

HHHMMM, Nation Building? You don't anything bout History. Kennedy was all for Vietnam. Irks you that Nixon had to get us out, doesn't it?

Understand... Not one of your administration's policies has made any sense and now "the chickens are coming home to roost" Just like the good Reverend said...

Yes, and my "People" developed HIV and used it to wage Genocide upon yours.

4. Explain how rising fuel prices is the result of democrat policy? You do know that this is claim is foolish and can't be supported or you would have tried.

(smile) Yes, it has never been the Left's "Policy" to stop any new Refineries being built, to halt Exploration and Drilling for Domestic Oil. You do know that the Left has not allowed a new Refinery for 30 years?

5. Katrina... a disgrace that will be legend in this country until it's dieing day because of the inadequacies of the right wing administration and the weakening of FEMA to support another cluster-fuck i.e. The Office of Homeland Insecurity.

Wow. Complete obfuscation. You do realize that there were plenty of Buses in New Orleans....and that a Dem Gov was instrumental in them not being used...thereby hindering Her population from getting out????

Now, seriously, you are well over your head here..

Originally Posted by IHNR

Attention all you rightwing mongrols... You boys Bush and McCain just got bitch-slap by future President Obama.

One last thing... wasn't it PRESCOTT BUSH who did business with the Nazis?

Oh... and before the "nut" gallery comes out and says that this is just a rumor, there are newly obtained documents that prove it. sorry.

Love and Kisses
IHNR

Originally Posted by IHNR

Anytime you want to go head to head I would be happy to educate you on the TRUTH that you have no knowledge of because you get your information from propaganda sources such as hate-radio, fox news and print.

I would bet that you are another one of these idiots on this site who barely graduated high school, let alone attend or obtained degrees from a University. You'll notice that the lefties ARE MUCH MORE THROUGHLY EDUCATED THAN THE RIGHT-SIDE MORONS WHO LITTER THIS FORUM.


I have many things rebuke but I'll begin with the end... THERE WERE NO DRIVERS TO OPERATE THOSE BUSES.

I'm also referring to the lack of concern and the slow response was a national disgrace and this is a BI-PARTISAN stance. Those citizens pay their taxes and also just happen to sit a few miles from the oil and natural gas reserves that supply 1/3 of those resources to this country, so if the government didn’t' steal this money from the resource, NO would have no issues with rebuilding their city.

Drilling in Alaska ISN"T THE ANSWER you short sighted little fool. Americans are going to FINALLY join the world in not driving gas hog SUV's and adopt the European model of transportation.

Then at the end of the day (stupid) if you can create an automobile (because FAT DUMB REDNECK AMERICANS need their big cars and trucks that run on a renewable fuel that eliminates the need for foreign oil then the inhabitants of the Middle East can go back to cutting each other's head's off with little consequence to the rest of the world.

Problem is the Republican Party = In the Pockets of Big Oil

LIBERALS = we’ve been begging for an alternate fuel vehicle for 30 years. Watch the doc. "Who Killed the Electric Car" and you see that this technology has been KILLED by BIG OIL.

So, by keeping our mouth to the OPEC TIT, it's the Republicans that are keeping us slaves to the "Evil Doers"

Your party didn't create AIDS but you didn't do anything (REAGAN) to contain the outbreak in the beginning... waiting for it to move from homosexuals and IV drug users to young kids and heterosexuals before they...strike that... REAGAN DIDN"T DO SHIT and only mention the word AIDS in one speech one time.

You are always talking about people doing for themselves... Well it was the gay community that raised the money to bring (during the Clinton years) the AIDS outbreak under control.

I believe the Pious Ass Anti-Christian Right (you believe and practice none of the tenants of the TRUE christian religion) actually enjoyed watching AIDS kill those it deemed "the dregs of society"

Your kinds make me sick...

JFK WOULD HAVE STOPPED THAT WAR AND BEGUN BRINGING HOME LARGE NUMBER OF SOILDERS FOR CHRISTMAS in 63'

Nixon was NUT-CASE and I have studied him to excess and believe him to have psychotic. The only reason he ended the war was because of the overwhelming public support for troop removal, very similar to the conditions we have today.

I'm not familiar with you so I'll ask; are you one of those rightwing christian fundies? Because I love tearing those idiots apart when it comes to religion in government.

Originally Posted by rob

IHNR, pray tell where do you get your information at since you dis any conservative links?

Originally Posted by Amazed

Very few of these shills post "links". They simply regurgitate what they've heard from their "Leaders".