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Old 05-16-2008, 01:36 PM
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You are so educated on these issues Amazed... how about refuting any of the claims made so far... point is... "Like Mr. Obama pointed out today" when it comes down to the actual merits of the action concerning the ultra-rightwing administration, you lose EVERYTIME.

We were discussing JFK and Tax Cuts..remember?

Bottom line (like Dom) you are all a bunch of failures that back failed and flawed policies... WHY?????? Because you thoughtless sheep, who are told what to think. bitch.


OOOHHHH stop, it hurts when you call me names.
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Old 05-16-2008, 01:41 PM
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My Party isn't the issue, yours is. JFK would puke at the Socialist Bullshit being promulgated by the Dems of today....you hate that he loved Tax Cuts...don't you?


Hey, if listen to Mr. Obama you would know that he loves tax cuts too..... FOR THE FUCKING MIDDLE CLASS and NOT THE RICH and WEALTHY CORPORATIONS.

Let me stop you before your make a fool of yourself... VOODOO economics hasn't worked i.e. WEALTH DOES FUCKING TRICKLE DOWN.

Also I notice you cowardly retreat when asked about your party because you know it's ruined and in shambles....... WHY?....... BECAUSE THE LAST EIGHT YEAHS HAVE PROVED THAT YOU ARE A BUNCH OF GREEDY IDIOTS.

Also JFK would never have make such an egregious error of taking the focus off of Afghanistan (where the Taliban are now stronger than ever) to waist lives and resources on a PRIVATE WAR of PROFIT FOR THE CORPORATION WHO HAVE MADE BILLIONS FROM THIS WAR.

You are failed.

Damn I want to post this but there are so many more things to point out about your ignorance, like the economic suicide of GIVE LARGE TAX CUT DURING A TIME OF A TWO FRONT WAR AND A MASSIVE NATURE DISASTER HERE AT HOME.
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Old 05-16-2008, 01:50 PM
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Hey, if listen to Mr. Obama you would know that he loves tax cuts too..... FOR THE FUCKING MIDDLE CLASS and NOT THE RICH and WEALTHY CORPORATIONS.

Let me stop you before your make a fool of yourself... VOODOO economics hasn't worked i.e. WEALTH DOES FUCKING TRICKLE DOWN.


So tell me, you do know that Kennedy, Reagan, and Bush all proved that Gov Revenue goes UP when Taxes are cut, don't you?

Also I notice you cowardly retreat when asked about your party because you know it's ruined and in shambles....... WHY?....... BECAUSE THE LAST EIGHT YEAHS HAVE PROVED THAT YOU ARE A BUNCH OF GREEDY IDIOTS.

You haven't asked me any questions silly boy, you are simply shouting clicges through your Monitor at me.

Also JFK would never have make such an egregious error of taking the focus off of Afghanistan (where the Taliban are now stronger than ever) to waist lives and resources on a PRIVATE WAR of PROFIT FOR THE CORPORATION WHO HAVE MADE BILLIONS FROM THIS WAR.

You do know Vietnam is JFK's War?


Damn I want to post this but there are so many more things to point out about your ignorance, like the economic suicide of GIVE LARGE TAX CUT DURING A TIME OF A TWO FRONT WAR AND A MASSIVE NATURE DISASTER HERE AT HOME.

Massive disaster here at home?

You mean stupid people taking out stupid Loans to buy things they can't afford?

You mean the Fuel prices going through the roof because of stupid Left Wing Ideologies?

Stop shouting young man. I am right here.
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Old 05-16-2008, 02:12 PM
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Hey, if listen to Mr. Obama you would know that he loves tax cuts too..... FOR THE FUCKING MIDDLE CLASS and NOT THE RICH and WEALTHY CORPORATIONS.

Let me stop you before your make a fool of yourself... VOODOO economics hasn't worked i.e. WEALTH DOES FUCKING TRICKLE DOWN.


So tell me, you do know that Kennedy, Reagan, and Bush all proved that Gov Revenue goes UP when Taxes are cut, don't you?

Also I notice you cowardly retreat when asked about your party because you know it's ruined and in shambles....... WHY?....... BECAUSE THE LAST EIGHT YEAHS HAVE PROVED THAT YOU ARE A BUNCH OF GREEDY IDIOTS.

You haven't asked me any questions silly boy, you are simply shouting clicges through your Monitor at me.

Also JFK would never have make such an egregious error of taking the focus off of Afghanistan (where the Taliban are now stronger than ever) to waist lives and resources on a PRIVATE WAR of PROFIT FOR THE CORPORATION WHO HAVE MADE BILLIONS FROM THIS WAR.

You do know Vietnam is JFK's War?


Damn I want to post this but there are so many more things to point out about your ignorance, like the economic suicide of GIVE LARGE TAX CUT DURING A TIME OF A TWO FRONT WAR AND A MASSIVE NATURE DISASTER HERE AT HOME.

Massive disaster here at home?

You mean stupid people taking out stupid Loans to buy things they can't afford?

You mean the Fuel prices going through the roof because of stupid Left Wing Ideologies?

Stop shouting young man. I am right here.
Your condescension is noted...

1. Government Rev... Silly old man, what about the man who gets up to go to work everyday, busts his ass and still can't make it, what about him?

CEO Salaries (and I work closely with different CEO's and know what they produce and that is little) has gone up 300% and the average American's raise is usually enough to cover inflation. THAT IS WHAT HAS CAUSED THIS MASSIVE RECESSION the destruction of the middle class... WHO AREN"T BUYING and ours is a BUYING ECONOMY.

2. I did challenge you concerning your party... I said that it is ruined and in shambles. You didn't correct me on this point so I would have to assume that you agree with me.

3. JFK never would have gone into Iraq... Zero Chance... Also, if he had lived he would have ended the Vietnam War quickly "In the end its war they have to win it..." JFK I'm sure he would have applied this same pressure to the civil war raging about in Iraq today.

Understand... Not one of your administration's policies has made any sense and now "the chickens are coming home to roost" Just like the good Reverend said...

4. Explain how rising fuel prices is the result of democrat policy? You do know that this is claim is foolish and can't be supported or you would have tried.

5. Katrina... a disgrace that will be legend in this country until it's dieing day because of the inadequacies of the right wing administration and the weakening of FEMA to support another cluster-fuck i.e. The Office of Homeland Insecurity.
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Old 05-16-2008, 02:13 PM
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Like most righties... there he goes running away from the argument.
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Old 05-16-2008, 02:18 PM
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He's Amazing that way.

All Republicants are.
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Old 05-16-2008, 02:37 PM
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Your condescension is noted...

1. Government Rev... Silly old man, what about the man who gets up to go to work everyday, busts his ass and still can't make it, what about him?


You would talking of me, what about me? I am my own responsibility. If I can't afford something, I don't buy it. I want no handouts from my Government.

CEO Salaries (and I work closely with different CEO's and know what they produce and that is little) has gone up 300% and the average American's raise is usually enough to cover inflation. THAT IS WHAT HAS CAUSED THIS MASSIVE RECESSION the destruction of the middle class... WHO AREN"T BUYING and ours is a BUYING ECONOMY.

CEO Salaries do not cause recessions. Now....we aren't in recession.

Look, I know the economy is weak. But if it never has a down quarter, then it never went into a recession. Here is what Robert Hall, who heads the recession-dating committee at the National Bureau of Economic Research, said yesterday: "It seems unlikely that we would ever declare a peak date when real GDP continued to rise."

You have to admit that given $120-a-barrel oil, a severe housing recession, and a nasty credit crunch, it is quite amazing that America's growth machine is running at all right now. And it is just as amazing that damage from the housing and credit crunch has been relatively confined to those sectors, as important as they are. As market strategist Ed Yardeni notes this morning (boldface mine):


So, What Is a Recession? - Capital Commerce (usnews.com)

Could it happen? Sure, but it hasn't, yet. You could confiscate the salaries of all CEO's in this Nation and still not dent Poverty.

2. I did challenge you concerning your party... I said that it is ruined and in shambles. You didn't correct me on this point so I would have to assume that you agree with me.

Again, you made a statement, you asked no question, you do see the difference, don't you? I would heartily agree, they have walked away from the Reagan principles, when they return to them we will once again regain power. You show your youth by not understanding the cyclical nature of Politics.

3. JFK never would have gone into Iraq... Zero Chance... Also, if he had lived he would have ended the Vietnam War quickly "In the end its war they have to win it..." JFK I'm sure he would have applied this same pressure to the civil war raging about in Iraq today.

You will excuse if I don't ascribe to your speculations??

President Kennedy came into office with a belief that America could and should shape the destiny of the world's developing countries. Vietnam, however, was not primarily what he had in mind. Vietnam was not on the president's list of priorities nor was it discussed as key issues at the transition meeting between Kennedy and President Eisenhower. Indeed, Kennedy remarked in the middle of his administration, after Vietnam had become a more urgent issue, "You know, Eisenhower never mentioned it, never uttered the word Vietnam."

President Kennedy believed that the instability of developing countries demanded new approaches. Kennedy was especially taken by the analysis of MIT economist Walt W. Rostow, who believed that all nations followed the same general path of economic and social development. He argued that nations became unstable as the reached the phase he called "modernization."

The Kennedy administration was guided in part by this modernization model as it considered a way to protect South Vietnam while help it throughout the stages of economic growth. Most of Kennedy's advisers believed that South Vietnam was not in danger. As Robert McNamara, Secretary of Defense said once, "North Vietnam will never beat us. They can't even make ice cubes."


VietnamWar.com:Vietnam War - President John F. Kennedy's Role in the Vietnam War

HHHMMM, Nation Building? You don't anything bout History. Kennedy was all for Vietnam. Irks you that Nixon had to get us out, doesn't it?

Understand... Not one of your administration's policies has made any sense and now "the chickens are coming home to roost" Just like the good Reverend said...

Yes, and my "People" developed HIV and used it to wage Genocide upon yours.

4. Explain how rising fuel prices is the result of democrat policy? You do know that this is claim is foolish and can't be supported or you would have tried.

(smile) Yes, it has never been the Left's "Policy" to stop any new Refineries being built, to halt Exploration and Drilling for Domestic Oil. You do know that the Left has not allowed a new Refinery for 30 years?

5. Katrina... a disgrace that will be legend in this country until it's dieing day because of the inadequacies of the right wing administration and the weakening of FEMA to support another cluster-fuck i.e. The Office of Homeland Insecurity.

Wow. Complete obfuscation. You do realize that there were plenty of Buses in New Orleans....and that a Dem Gov was instrumental in them not being used...thereby hindering Her population from getting out????

Now, seriously, you are well over your head here..
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Old 05-16-2008, 02:42 PM
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No new refineries were needed.

Even today, existing facilities never run at maximum capacity.
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No new refineries were needed.

Even today, existing facilities never run at maximum capacity.
They can't. They are so old and outdated every time they try, they explode.
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No new refineries were needed.

Even today, existing facilities never run at maximum capacity.
Why is it the Left never wants to "cite" anything, yet always DEMANDS "cites"?
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