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Amazed · #11 (**permalink**) 05-16-2008, 12:31 PM

JFK would roll over in his Grave at seeing what his Party has become.

nathanbforrest45 · #12 (**permalink**) 05-16-2008, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Amazed

JFK would roll over in his Grave at seeing what his Party has become.

JFK is a bit to the right of McCain

pjwky · #13 (**permalink**) 05-16-2008, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dom1

I said it was Ted Kennedy's daddy, and that would be Joseph.

So is Ted Kennedy.

Fact is, it is hypocritical to make this an issue while claiming that JFK was a good president and a hero to liberals all over.

With the expanding internet don't count on ANY president serving four years, let alone eight, without having all sorts of things come to the forefront which didn't come out with previous presidents.

Fine, if you want to argue lies, deceptions, etc, then why bring up a non-issue in which lefties don't criticize a liberal hero for? That the left doesn't criticize a long time sitting US Senator for? It just makes it look desperate.

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"Dom", you are sure right about the internet & nomore secrets: imagine how JFK would have stood up to James Dobson & his perfect family ideals?

As I think about your post, I ask myself "what is it about GWB & gang that I find so offensive?" Its true others have lied to us, its true others have taken advantage of their political positions, and it true that others have associated with unsavory characters:

I think for me it is the excessive ruthless extensive deliberate use of lies & deception to gain political ends & increase their own personal wealth at the expense of what is in the long term public good of the "main street" people & of the Nation as a whole. I also greatly fear the "slippery slope" effect of their refusal to adhere to basic Constitutional bounds. ...pjwky

Amazed · #14 (**permalink**) 05-16-2008, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45

JFK is a bit to the right of McCain

Yes he was.

pjwky · #15 (**permalink**) 05-16-2008, 12:50 PM

Did any of you God Protected Religious Right Conservative bunch see one of your radio talk show heroes (Kevin Jones) get his ass kicked by Chris Matthews yesterday?

The ignorant fool, Kevin kept on claiming that Obama was an "appeaser" just like Chamberlain because he would talk to Iran which he maintained was like Hitler. When Matthews ask young stupid Kevin what exactly Chamberlain had done to make him an "appeaser", Kevin did not know the answer to the question: in the end Matthews had to explain the history that "talking to Hitler" was not appeasing, it was the action of allowing Hitler a free hand that was appeasing. Funny to watch this "expert" squirm. ...pjwky

Amazed · #16 (**permalink**) 05-16-2008, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by pjwky

Did any of you God Protected Religious Right Conservative bunch see one of your radio talk show heroes (Kevin Jones) get his ass kicked by Chris Matthews yesterday?

The ignorant fool, Kevin kept on claiming that Obama was an "appeaser" just like Chamberlain because he would talk to Iran which he maintained was like Hitler. When Matthews ask young stupid Kevin what exactly Chamberlain had done to make him an "appeaser", Kevin did not know the answer to the question: in the end Matthews had to explain the history that "talking to Hitler" was not appeasing, it was the action of allowing Hitler a free hand that was appeasing. Funny to watch this "expert" squirm. ...pjwky

Like many in Britain who had lived through World War One, Chamberlain was determined to avert another war. His policy of appeasement towards Adolf Hitler culminated in the Munich Agreement in which Britain and France accepted that the Czech region of the Sudetenland should be ceded to Germany. Chamberlain left Munich believing that by appeasing Hitler he had assured 'peace for our time'. However, in March 1939 Hitler annexed the rest of the Czech lands of Bohemia and Moravia, with Slovakia becoming a puppet state of Germany. Five months later in September 1939 Hitler's forces invaded Poland. Chamberlain responded with a British declaration of war on Germany.

BBC - History - Neville Chamberlain (1869 - 1940)

No, sorry...BUT we have a great parting "Gift" for you.

Chamberalin entered the talks believing Hitler was a "reasonable" man....

IHNR · #17 (**permalink**) 05-16-2008, 01:22 PM

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Harriman Bank was the main Wall Street partner for several German companies and the varied U.S. financial interests of Fritz Thyssen. Thyssen had been an early financial backer of the Nazi party, but by 1939 was bitterly denouncing Hitler and had fled Germany. He was later jailed by the Nazis for his opposition to the Nazi regime.[5] Business transactions with Germany were not illegal until Hitler declared war on the United States on December 11, 1941, but, six days after the attack on Pearl Harbor, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt signed the Trading With the Enemy Act after it had been made public that U.S. companies were doing business with the declared enemy of the United States. On October 20, 1942, the U.S. government ordered the seizure of German banking operations in New York City. Roosevelt's Alien Property Custodian, Leo T. Crowley, signed Vesting Order Number 248 seizing property under the Trading with the Enemy Act. The order cited only the Union Banking Corporation (UBC), of which Bush was a director and held only one share. Fox News has reports on recently declassified material about this issue, according to a document signed by Homer Jones, chief of the division of investigation and research of the Office of Alien Property Custodian, a World War II-era agency.[6] By 1941 Thyssen no longer had control over his business empire, which was in the hands of the Nazi government.

Read into that what you will. Hitler, until he began attacking his neighbors was the darling of the American left and even Roosevelt thought that some of the programs Hitler put in place were worthwhile. Besides, how does Prescott Bush have anything at all to do with John McCain or George W. Bush?

Because when you live in a glass house you shouldn't throw stones. I was waiting and hoping that this would be brought up in the press conference but it wasn't because Mr. Obama has A LOT OF CLASS.

Also, there are many Jewish organizations who black-ball Bush because of his grandfather's ties to the Nazis.

I believe what Keith Oberman said was perfect "SHUT THE HELL UP” Especially when you are contradicting your own staff and 2008 Republican nominee, who by the way, changed directions after the Bush statement was made.

ALL IN ONE DAY... it shows the full hypocrisy of the Right-Wing Agenda

IHNR · #18 (**permalink**) 05-16-2008, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Amazed

JFK would roll over in his Grave at seeing what his Party has become.

BULLSHIT... my party is farther to the middle than many of it's based believe that it should be, we are over run with fucking rightwing democrats and it all comes down to appealing to the fucking religious WACKOS in this country.

I would LOVE to know what he would think of your FUCKED UP PARTY.

Amazed · #19 (**permalink**) 05-16-2008, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by IHNR

BULLSHIT... my party is farther to the middle than many of it's based believe that it should be, we are over run with fucking rightwing democrats and it all comes down to appealing to the fucking religious WACKOS in this country.

I would LOVE to know what he would think of your FUCKED UP PARTY.

My Party isn't the issue, yours is. JFK would puke at the Socialist Bullshit being promulgated by the Dems of today....you hate that he loved Tax Cuts...don't you?

IHNR · #20 (**permalink**) 05-16-2008, 01:32 PM

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Yes INHR, it was Granddady Prescot that was the Nazi business associate.

The Bush & Walker family have been about making money by taking advantage of political situations for a long time. Their business relationships with wealthy arab families is also well known: they are deep into the pocketts of the House of Saud, and Bin Ladin too.

Imagine if stuff like this were revelaed about Obama? The AWE right wing fundamentalist nuts would be out in droves. ...pjwky

You do know that after 9/11, when all air traffic was halted... THE ONLY NON-MILITARY PLANE in the air was a private jet returning home members of the Bin Laudin family.

People were dieing because they couldn't get organ donor planes in the air and these fucking grease balls get a private jet "get-away" out of the country.

You are so educated on these issues Amazed... how about refuting any of the claims made so far... point is... "Like Mr. Obama pointed out today" when it comes down to the actual merits of the action concerning the ultra-rightwing administration, you lose EVERYTIME.

Bottom line (like Dom) you are all a bunch of failures that back failed and flawed policies... WHY?????? Because you thoughtless sheep, who are told what to think. bitch.