Osama's respect for women

Tileman · #91 (**permalink**) 05-20-2008, 06:35 PM

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It is now time to hold Obama up to the same standard he demands of others.

Sweetie? You just said a mouthful.....

I Concur! he was very disrespctful. Sheesh, I'm a male construction worker and even I have more cooth than Hussein Obama!

wow · #92 (**permalink**) 05-20-2008, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by naturemomma

NO, I care about all people. All people who have died. I know that's rare, but true. I was in the peace corps when I was younger and I have seen a lot of what other people in other nations go through, just to survive. I don't value one life over another simply because it was made in America.

You do not value an American life more than a foreigner's life?
Yikes, I hope you are never fighting next to me against a foreign enemy.

Chef · #93 (**permalink**) 05-20-2008, 07:06 PM

I'm Fcking Obama!

ricechickie · #94 (**permalink**) 05-21-2008, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kgpoolerev

There were white women on the Rutgers team and no one has defended them as they were part of Imus's nappy headed ho comment.

Ho is often a term of endearment in some black, hispanic, and white communities. As I pointed out there was more outrage at nappy headed than ho by many black ladies. One man's ho is another man's sweetie, and neither, NEITHER have a place in a professional enviroment.

Where are these people in these communities? Just because you hear a rapper say it doesn't mean that it's a term of endearment for every black man.

And it's something I've never heard as a term of endearment, being among the "black, hispanic, and white" community.

kgpoolerev · #95 (**permalink**) 05-21-2008, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ricechickie

Where are these people in these communities? Just because you hear a rapper say it doesn't mean that it's a term of endearment for every black man.

And it's something I've never heard as a term of endearment, being among the "black, hispanic, and white" community.

Does sweetie, nappy headed, or ho belong in the work place?

Rap is a snapshot of a culture. From that culture we have hos and baby daddies both which are badges of honor in the culture.

ricechickie · #96 (**permalink**) 05-21-2008, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by kgpoolerev

Does sweetie, nappy headed, or ho belong in the work place?

Absolutely not. In fact, I would say that Imus' "nappy-headed ho" comment was more offensive, yet also more suited to the environment (his radio show, which strives to shock people). However, Obama's relatively mild comment was unprofessional, for which he apologized. And it's not terribly offensive in the first place.

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Rap is a snapshot of a culture. From that culture we have hos and baby daddies both which are badges of honor in the culture.

Rap is a snapshot of a black culture, not the black culture.

And you don't know much if you think that "hos" and "baby daddies" are largely seen as badges of honor in the black community. Seen that way by a few, largely tolerated by many, soundly rejected by some.

kgpoolerev · #97 (**permalink**) 05-21-2008, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ricechickie

Absolutely not. In fact, I would say that Imus' "nappy-headed ho" comment was more offensive, yet also more suited to the environment (his radio show, which strives to shock people). However, Obama's relatively mild comment was unprofessional, for which he apologized. And it's not terribly offensive in the first place.

Rap is a snapshot of a black culture, not the black culture.

And you don't know much if you think that "hos" and "baby daddies" are largely seen as badges of honor in the black community. Seen that way by a few, largely tolerated by many, soundly rejected by some.

Alright. We have now established that 'sweetie' does not belong in the work place. I think he believe he was in the 57th state of Kentucky that borders Arkansas and so sweetie was acceptable. Seriously though, even after Imus had apologized numerous times Obama was calling for Imus to be fired. Why should we not hold Obama to the same standard he demands of others?

Good thing I did not say it was THE black culture, better yet I did not say it was a BLACK culture. There are many whites and hispanics who have bought into that culture.

ricechickie · #98 (**permalink**) 05-21-2008, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by kgpoolerev

Alright. We have now established that 'sweetie' does not belong in the work place. I think he believe he was in the 57th state of Kentucky that borders Arkansas and so sweetie was acceptable. Seriously though, even after Imus had apologized numerous times Obama was calling for Imus to be fired. Why should we not hold Obama to the same standard he demands of others?

Good thing I did not say it was THE black culture, better yet I did not say it was a BLACK culture. There are many whites and hispanics who have bought into that culture.

Perhaps we should hold Obama to the same standards, if he ever calls someone a "nappy-headed ho" on the campaign trail.

And I'm sorry, but when you say "rap" and "culture" in the same sentence, it is black you are talking about. Some hispanic and white people have bought into it, same as they have bought into black culture before this (jazz?) and probably will in the future.

kgpoolerev · #99 (**permalink**) 05-21-2008, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ricechickie

Perhaps we should hold Obama to the same standards, if he ever calls someone a "nappy-headed ho" on the campaign trail.

And I'm sorry, but when you say "rap" and "culture" in the same sentence, it is black you are talking about. Some hispanic and white people have bought into it, same as they have bought into black culture before this (jazz?) and probably will in the future.

""I understand MSNBC has suspended Mr. Imus," Obama told ABC News, "but I would also say that there's nobody on my staff who would still be working for me if they made a comment like that about anybody of any ethnic group. And I would hope that NBC ends up having that same attitude."

"He didn't just cross the line," Obama said. "He fed into some of the worst stereotypes that my two young daughters are having to deal with today in America. The notions that as young African-American women -- who I hope will be athletes -- that that somehow makes them less beautiful or less important. It was a degrading comment. It's one that I'm not interested in supporting." ---Obama discussing Imus calling the white and black ladies on Rutgers team 'nappy headed hos'.

Spin it all you like. Obama demands Imus be fired and states that he would have no one like Imus on his staff. Then Obama allowed Wright on his staff. Now Obama himself has fed into some of the worst stereotyps that his two young daughters are having to deal with today in America. Obama should be finally be held accountable to the same standard he demanded for Imus and ABC.