Jew-controlled or not, the MSM has failed the American people.

Too bad, I had hopes he might begin to actually think for himself.

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Fucking jew shill comes to the rescue, to save Agent Grey from the unmasking of the truth about the jews. Too bad, I had hopes he might begin to actually think for himself.

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The jews need to throw a holocaust, they owe us one.
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OH God / Allah!! here comes Aholecrowly with totaly no input.

AHole, I have yet to have any any takers to advise if they have ever seen a thoughtful response of value in any of your 6500+ posts since Feb.

Here is a good opportunity for you. Can you provide some substance for or against Mr. Greys very good reply to the topic of this thread? Perhaps go ask your mommy what it means and then maybe you can come up with something.

Or even answer the simple question that I posed.

Come on give it a try. You might of some input that is worthwhile or the depth of this topic is just wasted on you. I know it's a stretch but you maybe able to surprise everyone if you realy put your mind to it.

You Wanker!!

[quote=Agent_Grey;409121]Your first post relies on the idea that one Jewish idiot’s ramblings from 600 (or 1600 years if you’re referring to the Talmud itself) years ago are somehow widely accepted, taught, and disseminated throughout the Jewish community. This simply isn’t the case.
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Says who? How did you become an expert on what Jews believe, old sport? Show some proof that Jews don't believe in the Talmud. The Talmud is their holiest book, holier even than the Torah.


That would be like me showing you a link to some 12th century mad monk who believed that Jews ate babies and claiming that it was the basis for the contemporary mistreatment of Jews.
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How are Jews being mistreated contemporarily? By turning billions of dollars over to their "homeland" annually? By sitting on our hands and allowing them to usurp our government? By not prosecuting Jewish Mossad spies when they are apprehended? By worshiping those of them who permeate the entertainment industry? Just how are they being mistreated?


I feel this represents a reasonable, rationed, non-brainwashed explanation for why this particular link is irrelevant to the issue at hand. I will now go on to your other links and see what they say.
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I don't think so at all, old sport.


To your second link: The fact that one secularly raised Jew (like myself) can be converted to the hate speech of the industrialists he broke bread with does not evidence make. If Louis Farhakan came out tomorrow and said that Slavery was a hoax, no one would believe him with good reason, even though like Mr. Freedman he has rubbed elbows with various world leaders at various times. Above all, he still fails to substantiate the universality of the claims he and the other conspiracy theorists make. Jews don’t congregate and make these sweeping decisions about what lies to tell the world, it wouldn’t even be physically feasible for them to do so.
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What do you think the Bilderberger meetings are for? The Illuminati? The Masons? If you don't think there is a heirarchy leading the Jews and giving them their marching orders, you are sadly mistaken, old sport. Here is a good book for you to read, old sport: "Rule By Secrecy" by Jim Marrs.




Your third link is even more interesting and twice as laughable.
1. It fails again to substantiate when or where all the Jews get together and MAKE these broad-based decisions that alter the world. With that absent from every account, the light leaving truth won’t reach this perspective for a trillion years.
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Same response as above.


2. Assassinated by the Mossad? Really? He was fucking 94 years old when he died, writing this crap for decades before he died. That’s the stupidest allegation of assassination I’ve ever heard of. Some of what he lists are the perfectly legitimate criticisms of how Israel has comported itself, but they’re tucked between insane comparisons between settlement communes and Socialism/Communism. Settlements don’t HAVE full functioning capitalist economies yet, what else are they supposed to do?
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If you doubt the Mossad is above assassination, you really need to read the book "By Way Of Deception" by Victor Ostrovsky, an ex-Mossad Jew who lets the kosher kat out of the bag with this one. They even assassinate 94 year olds if it helps them prove a point to others.





3. Lastly I might add that taking the ramblings of someone who got punched in the head for a living as gospel is a bad basis for any theory.
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The object in boxing is to NOT get punched in the head, and the good ones seldom do.


To your fourth link: Some of this is fair analysis of people’s support of Israel, but it isn’t indicative of a connection. The more huge world events you try to draw into the same conspiracy, the more unstable that conspiracy becomes. Currently, if I were to construct a single timeline out of everything you’ve posted, it would look something like this:

A bunch of Jews called the Khazars started a conspiracy over a thousand years ago, with some links back to before they were formed, and some that were created far after anyone even remembered the distinction of their existence. Consequentially, their shadowy (apparently omnipotent) organization has successfully made itself responsible for everything from WWI to the holocaust (which they also made up… huh?) to 9/11.

What would it take to make you see how ridiculous this is? You keep saying that no one refutes the facts…but you don’t present any facts, you give me long and rambling diatribes from tragically insane people that only make your case worse and worse and worse. Every example they give is anecdotal and, frankly, really poorly put together.

What’s also interesting about Berstein and Freedman is that they didn’t just suddenly emerge from some dark Jewish Cabal with a bunch of information no one had ever seen before proving the Jews guilty…. Rather both of them had strong influence and ties to other anti-sametic people, and COINCIDENTIALLY just happened to start echoing exactly the same details and facts they were already forwarding.

To give you a like example: Pretend that I never in my life, had anything against driving Toyota cars, and had always driven a Toyota.

Then one day I start hanging out with people who hate Toyotas and says that they’re poorly made and have all these safety flaws and problems with the axles and transmissions and break cables.

Then I suffer whatever mental break it is that Berstein and Freedman suffered, and suddenly start joining in. I say that because I’ve driven a Toyota I know exactly what they’re talking about. It doesn’t mater that I’ve never had a problem with the Axle or the Transmission or Breaks, the important thing is that Toyota is just bad, and I quote their very reasons for why.
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Maybe you just owned Toyotas that weren't lemons, and if you did get a lemon, you were convinced by Toyota that yours was the only defective Toyota they ever heard of.

Do you see the problem here? There isn’t new information being injected into the discussion by these supposed defectors, that makes their worth extremely dubious
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The problem here is that you are too brain-washed, narrow-minded and myopic to see the truth when it is shown to you. I think you are either Jewish, related to a Jew(s), or just too downright rock-headed to investigate more than you have been taught in your "schul."

New information isn't needed. The truth is abundant and accessible to those who aren't so hide-bound in their ideas, thoughts and convictions that they refuse to entertain other ones. I feel for those people.

Lasher, he admitted being a jew above. Not worth your time.

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Well for one thing, I'd never even heard of the guy until it was posted here. My guess is that most of the Rabis and orthodox Jews I know (and I do know a few of the former and many of the latter) are pretty emberassed by things like that. People from all faiths have written stupid hateful things throughout all of history. There is nothing unique or special about the Jewish ones who have done the same.

Besides, there is no mention of how we should treat Muslims in the Talmud or in this guy's writing, yet I'd argue the Israeli governments policies reflect far stronger animosity then anything that might have descended from foolish interpretation of scripture.

In other words, if it is your contention that Jews are evil because we all adhere to this set of beliefs, wouldn't it make more sense for there to be me Jewish-Christian wars? Of course since from what I can tell according to your worldview, Jews are responsible for pretty much every war, so maybe I'm not making a strong enough argument here.


By threads like this for a start. Blaming Jews for every evil since the sin of Adam is a form of mistreatment.

I say again: I am not in favor of what Israel is doing to the Palestinian people. If you can cleave anti-sematism from rationed opposition to certain practices of the Israeli government, then I will have every respect for your view. The need to lump conspiracies and racial slurs into that is what robs posts like yours from having any weight.

This is one of those places where antisametic conspiracies become downright ADORABLE in their naiivite. According to the links I just read, we already control the government, and apparently have for the last 100 years. What's there left to usurp?

When's the last time you saw a public prosecution of ANY spy? The Crockers? Come on.

Worshipping? What? People rip the entertainment industry for its content on a daily basis. Both liberals and conservatives and jews and gentiles alike all think the entertainment industry has got some serious problems. Who the hell is worshipping it?

My point wasn't that there is a massive mistreatment of Jews that is somehow unique from the mistreatment suffered by any other racial/ethnic group.

My point was that the basis for any mistreatment, one group to another, cannot be traced to single documents and ancient antipathies. Find me the one document that explains slavery. Find me the one document that fully justifies (or robs justification from) the conflict between Hutus and Tutsis.


Clearly neither of us know that. I find it pretty unlikely that it's a meeting in which everyone gathers and discusses how Jews can best overthrow every aspect of society. What would that conversation even sound like?

Wow, that's your next defense? That sad old dead horse of a conspiracy theory? It's true that I can neither prove nor disprove the existance of an omnipotent, omnicscient, shadow-organization that controls every facet of the world, but frankly, neither can you.

I could just as easilly argue that the illuminati are actually a cabal of space-monkeys who intend to leverage global power to metrosexuals. There's no more or less basis.

Wow, now we're really straying... you left out the WTO and the Skull and Bones society. Obviously they're all Jewish led.

Well yeah. I would think by now I'd have seen it. Are you really telling me that these Jews are the most competant shadow-government in history? That they not only control EVERYTHING but do so without leaving a trace? Please.


You're ignoring the fact that Jews are people. Human beings. As a group no different than any other group of human beings to ever walk the face of this earth. It's that simple.


It isn't a matter of the morality of the Mossad, I'm sure they have (in fact they've basically bragged about it.) pulled off assassinations, like literally every other intelligence agency in the history of intelligence agencies. They all do.

My point is that trying to make a martyr of this irrelivent Jewish Anti-semite by saying he was assissinated is hilarious. Why would they kill an irrelivent figure 20 years after he wrote what they supposadly feared? There's literally no motive. It would be like me saying that Charlton Heston was murdered by liberal elites because of his views on Gun Control.


I won't dispute you there. I'm a fan of the Noble Art, the Stern Business, the Sweet Science if you will... it's just that I don't find the testimony of former boxers in their twighlight years to be compelling evidence.

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Maybe you just owned Toyotas that weren't lemons, and if you did get a lemon, you were convinced by Toyota that yours was the only defective Toyota they ever heard of.

Do you see the problem here? There isn’t new information being injected into the discussion by these supposed defectors, that makes their worth extremely dubious

*sighs* Here's the problem. Every time I try to refute one of the points you or Cannuck or any of the others make, instead of actually debating me on the point, you just throw the whole Conspiracy theory at me all at the same time. There are problems with that. For one thing, it inevitably distracts us all from what the initial point might have been. This started as a thread where I did my best to point out there is no signifigance to a new Media conglomerate entering the game in relation to Jewish media outlets. Now I'm suddenly trying to help you recontextualize all of History in relation to Jewish relations. I suspect by the end of it I must come out sounding crazy.

So let me ask you a favor: Let's pick one thing. We can discuss the rest later, but how about you pick whatever you think the most compelling piece of evidence against all Jewish-kind is, and we can try to go round and round with that one. Who knows, maybe I'll agree with you, maybe I won't, but at least we'll be able to keep the discussion down to earth, and intellectual.

My point is that people who HAVE a legitimate basis to enter discussion (like the two "defecting" jews in question), who then immediately do nothing but carry the standard of those who came before them WITHOUT that basis, are undermining themselves. That's all.

Pro-America Mr. Lasher,
Have you noticed how many jews are new to these forums? I think they are trying to inundate us with more jew propaganda than we can adequately respond to. TRANSLATION: We are making their evil agenda known, and they see it as a big enough threat to pull out the stops and attack.

With the best interests of America, I remain,
Very truely yours,
IcyPeaceMaker

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That's me, the Lone Ranger of Judaism! Or is that Tonto?

Ahole Grey, that was alot of time for nothing, you're just another full-O-shit jew lying bastard. Get thee hence, Satan!

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The jews need to throw a holocaust, they owe us one.
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