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05-08-2008, 01:35 PM
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I remember an AOL/Time Warner merger with Teddy Turncoat owning the likes of those....
Hard to find a larger liberal than Ted Turner and he is a massive media machine. So the idea of Jews having some monopoly on the media just does NOT wash.....
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05-08-2008, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by IcyPeaceMaker
I cannot begin to paint you a picture you have failed or refused to begin looking at yourself. Google jewish controlled media and see what you get.
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Can you not just answer my question? Wouldn't the media be supporting the war for example?
As Mr. Grey has pointed out you can google anything. I googled Icypeacemaker and it showed a picture of a horses ass but that is just one sight so maybe it's not fact.
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05-08-2008, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Agent_Grey
Um, so ClearChannel is owned by adamantly protestant Christians and we all know Rupert Murdoch isn't Jewish.
So ummmm.... what's with all the lying? Is that working out for you okay?
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Murdoch is a Jew, His mother was a Jew, and he is also an ardent Zionist.
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05-08-2008, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Agent_Grey
Um, so ClearChannel is owned by adamantly protestant Christians and we all know Rupert Murdoch isn't Jewish.
So ummmm.... what's with all the lying? Is that working out for you okay?
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What about all the other Jewish channels that aren't owned by Christians?
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05-08-2008, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by GoDuke
I do not see how the subject of the thread has to do with the article that you cut and pasted in your post as you supply no details that go directly to support the title of your thread.
So to respond to the title of the post and expanding on Mr. Grey's comment.
I have not looked at this in any detail but if the media was controled by Jews / Isreal / Isrealies, wouldn't it be as slanted further to the left? They would be supporting republicans and the war effort to keep them in charge and us in the middle east?
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All three (two, now) candidates have fallen all over themselves catering to the kikes. When a politician gets to any level higher than dog-catcher, he is investigated and vetted by the Jewish lobby for allegiance to the Jewish state, and none who are the least anti-jew are supported by them, ergo, they fall by the wayside.
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05-08-2008, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by IcyPeaceMaker
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These are some great sites, Icy. Many thanks.
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05-08-2008, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Agent_Grey
What a joke. Are you saying Murdoch would have run things much differently if he married into Catholic or Atheist money instead of Jewish money?
What does it mean to your theory when the media works against itself, the way Fox News clearly tries to work against the rest of the 24 hour news networks? How can two seperate organizations forwarding two completely different sets of ideas still BOTH be part of the same conspiracy?
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Have you ever heard anyone who is on the air for any TV station utter anything that could be considered as against Israel or Zionism, or even Jews, for that matter?
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05-08-2008, 02:30 PM
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Your first post relies on the idea that one Jewish idiot’s ramblings from 600 (or 1600 years if you’re referring to the Talmud itself) years ago are somehow widely accepted, taught, and disseminated throughout the Jewish community. This simply isn’t the case. That would be like me showing you a link to some 12th century mad monk who believed that Jews ate babies and claiming that it was the basis for the contemporary mistreatment of Jews. I feel this represents a reasonable, rationed, non-brainwashed explanation for why this particular link is irrelevant to the issue at hand. I will now go on to your other links and see what they say.
To your second link: The fact that one secularly raised Jew (like myself) can be converted to the hate speech of the industrialists he broke bread with does not evidence make. If Louis Farhakan came out tomorrow and said that Slavery was a hoax, no one would believe him with good reason, even though like Mr. Freedman he has rubbed elbows with various world leaders at various times. Above all, he still fails to substantiate the universality of the claims he and the other conspiracy theorists make. Jews don’t congregate and make these sweeping decisions about what lies to tell the world, it wouldn’t even be physically feasible for them to do so.
Your third link is even more interesting and twice as laughable.
1. It fails again to substantiate when or where all the Jews get together and MAKE these broad-based decisions that alter the world. With that absent from every account, the light leaving truth won’t reach this perspective for a trillion years.
2. Assassinated by the Mossad? Really? He was fucking 94 years old when he died, writing this crap for decades before he died. That’s the stupidest allegation of assassination I’ve ever heard of. Some of what he lists are the perfectly legitimate criticisms of how Israel has comported itself, but they’re tucked between insane comparisons between settlement communes and Socialism/Communism. Settlements don’t HAVE full functioning capitalist economies yet, what else are they supposed to do?
3. Lastly I might add that taking the ramblings of someone who got punched in the head for a living as gospel is a bad basis for any theory.
To your fourth link: Some of this is fair analysis of people’s support of Israel, but it isn’t indicative of a connection. The more huge world events you try to draw into the same conspiracy, the more unstable that conspiracy becomes. Currently, if I were to construct a single timeline out of everything you’ve posted, it would look something like this:
A bunch of Jews called the Khazars started a conspiracy over a thousand years ago, with some links back to before they were formed, and some that were created far after anyone even remembered the distinction of their existence. Consequentially, their shadowy (apparently omnipotent) organization has successfully made itself responsible for everything from WWI to the holocaust (which they also made up… huh?) to 9/11.
What would it take to make you see how ridiculous this is? You keep saying that no one refutes the facts…but you don’t present any facts, you give me long and rambling diatribes from tragically insane people that only make your case worse and worse and worse. Every example they give is anecdotal and, frankly, really poorly put together.
What’s also interesting about Berstein and Freedman is that they didn’t just suddenly emerge from some dark Jewish Cabal with a bunch of information no one had ever seen before proving the Jews guilty…. Rather both of them had strong influence and ties to other anti-sametic people, and COINCIDENTIALLY just happened to start echoing exactly the same details and facts they were already forwarding.
To give you a like example: Pretend that I never in my life, had anything against driving Toyota cars, and had always driven a Toyota.
Then one day I start hanging out with people who hate Toyotas and says that they’re poorly made and have all these safety flaws and problems with the axles and transmissions and break cables.
Then I suffer whatever mental break it is that Berstein and Freedman suffered, and suddenly start joining in. I say that because I’ve driven a Toyota I know exactly what they’re talking about. It doesn’t mater that I’ve never had a problem with the Axle or the Transmission or Breaks, the important thing is that Toyota is just bad, and I quote their very reasons for why.
Do you see the problem here? There isn’t new information being injected into the discussion by these supposed defectors, that makes their worth extremely dubious.
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05-08-2008, 02:36 PM
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[quote=Tileman;409050]I remember an AOL/Time Warner merger with Teddy Turncoat owning the likes of those...
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"I thought I was buying Time-Warner, but they were buying me. We had kind of a difference in viewpoint. Then they merged with AOL, and that was a complete disaster, at least so far. I have lost 85% of my wealth." (Ted Turner)
Now Ted knows the danger of dealing with kikes.
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Hard to find a larger liberal than Ted Turner and he is a massive media machine. So the idea of Jews having some monopoly on the media just does NOT wash
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Then name some media big-wigs who aren't Zionists, and I will name 10 Jews for every one you name.
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05-08-2008, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Agent_Grey
Your first post relies on the idea that one Jewish idiot’s ramblings from 600
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Wow, what a wonderfully rational and detailed rebuttal of all the crap posted here.
Too bad it will be totally wasted!
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