People like this have really no rational , logical thoughts about the issue. As you see here, Jet is using pure emotion. He uses his hatred for all things different than himself to fuel his words. Nazi,roughshod, etc. It is quite obvius that he has never rally read the 15th Amendment.

Section. 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.

FindLaw: U.S. Constitution: Fifteenth Amendment

Note the part about Citizenship. Now, let;s back up just a bit...and see whom the Constitution is speaking of......

Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Now, this Amendment spells it out very clearly. IT TELLS YOU WHAT A CITIZEN IS. If we can believe the Document itself, and if we understand the processes that MAKE us Citizens, we also understand that as such, the Gov itself provides Pic ID's...you need it to Drive, to get on a Plane, hell, to cash a check.

But Jet here, who clearly hates this Nation, probably becuase as a Man of Color he hates white folk....simply cries "racism", and "Disenfranchisement". Why? Because that's what the Left has TOLD him to cry.

"We are citizens because the Government gives us proof in the form of a National ID card with tracking device, ya goddamned Commie!"

Every American should want only legal citzens to vote and not allow outside sources to vote in our elections.

Liberals should not want conservatives to vote 10 times at 10 precincts under 10 names.
Conservatives should not want the same rom liberals.

So why does one side support ID's as proof and the other doesn't?
There must be a real motive here to not want a fair provable system of fairness and equality.

"Conservatives" just want to cave to Big Brother entirely.

No questions asked, either.

My father ran for public office as a State Rep some years ago and I became part of a process that would amaze many of you as it did myself.


The race was very close and within the range of a recount with my father having lost. The state has a system on how to go about these recounts and we followed it just as the other side did as well.


VOTER FRAUD was extremely obvious and here is how it's provable and how the state refuses to enforce voter fraud laws.

We found 2 obvious forms of voter fraud.
1. Identical names (up to 10) with identical addresses had voted at multiple precincts and had signed their name (signatures were identical also)on each of those precinct sheets the day they voted. (this is possible when a person claims to have recently moved to a new precinct area).
2. The same name (also with identical signatures) with many different addresses listed and nearly ALL of those addresses either did not exist or belonged to people that had owned those properties for many years voting at multiple precincts.

Oh, we also found a handful of dead people that managed to vote!
(The dead people that voted were mostly people that had shown up in the Obituaries in the local paper over the previous 2 months and that's how we found them)

Unfortunately, the law requires the proof of voter fraud to excede something like 10 fold of the difference between the candidates total difference in order to get a new election since it cannot be proven who those committing fraud voted for.

Also, to my amazement NONE of those guilty of voter fraud were investigated, charged or even notified they knew of the fraud.

So you damn right I want fair elections. By the way the difference between my fathers loss in the election was less than 200 votes and we found well over 500 people of voter fraud but that's not enough for a new election.

WASHINGTON - The Supreme Court ruled Monday that states can require voters to produce photo identification without violating their constitutional rights, validating Republican-inspired voter ID laws.

Let me help you with the conversation...see what the topic really is?? I hope thats helpful for you.

Now, if you want to Vote bad enough, prove you are a Citizen...not really that big of a deal...unless you are Democrat who wants to defraud the System.

Now, if one were to ACTUALLY read the Article, there is nothing said about National ID's...but then you wouldn't know that...you didn't actually READ it.

Since Amazed didn't even attempt to answer my operative points I'll assume he couldn't.

Indiana was allowed to enact laws without proving there was any need to. In effect it was allowed to do what the laws challengers were not. That is unConstitutional.

These cranks are trying to ignore the fact that only republicans were for this onerous law. The reason for that is because it was designed to exclude democratic votes. As usual, the republicans are allowed to lie and commit dirty tricks but this time our corrupted government backs them.




The reason it is an indirect poll tax is because those having to go get ID's are persons who can't afford the costs to go to their local government office or lack cars. This is well-known by the republicans. It is also known to them that this constituency tends to vote democratic - which is exactly why they are using this dirty tactic. The money and effort it would take for these people to go get the ID is enough that it will deter a good percentage of them from doing so. That is, in itself, an impediment to voting and is therefore against free American access to voting.



There's no question as to where the government is in this country and where it is going. (There's no swastika icon on my computer)

I see what you mean about "rightard" Crowl...

As usual leftturds don't know what the fuck they are talking about.

I can take that quote and apply it to every law written, by every state. They would all thus be unconstitutional.

Nuff said.

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How exactly is it unconstitutional? How is it a poll tax?

Meanwhile the Supreme Court ruled that those challenging the rule had failed to prove it would violate voter's rights

You have failed to prove it as well.

What people were held to a different standard of proof?

How is this a poll tax?

Why didn't you answer these things the first time they were asked?