High court approves voter ID!

wow · #31 (**permalink**) 04-30-2008, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by reccles44

I don't think that not paying taxes should prevent you from voting. Simply put we all pay taxes in some form. They are often called licenses, fees, charges, and other names...but if it goes to the government, it is a tax no matter what they call it.

Everyone who is old enough should have the right to vote but that does not mean that you should not prove you are who you say you are. I think that if we had more ID's in government there would be a lot less fraud. But that does not mean we need a national ID card.

I think a drivers license or other state issued picture ID would suffice. And I do not think that paying $10 or $20 for a card that last 4 or 5 years would keep the poor from participating in the electoral process.

People living on welfare pay taxes with the taxpayer's money, not their own.
Tying voting with paying income taxes could increase tax revenues. lol

Badmutha · #32 (**permalink**) 04-30-2008, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by reccles44

I don't think that not paying taxes should prevent you from voting.

Well I think if your voting on things that directly effect my wallet...its only fair your wallet is in the pot too.

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Simply put we all pay taxes in some form. They are often called licenses, fees, charges, and other names...but if it goes to the government, it is a tax no matter what they call it.

Except for the fact that some people choose to have absolute 0.00 as income...and freely choose to live off of the democrat provided tit.

Your partially right--everyone pays taxes--but if your paying taxes with the money I give to you...........who is really paying the taxes.

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Everyone who is old enough should have the right to vote but that does not mean that you should not prove you are who you say you are. I think that if we had more ID's in government there would be a lot less fraud. But that does not mean we need a national ID card.

I think a drivers license or other state issued picture ID would suffice. And I do not think that paying $10 or $20 for a card that last 4 or 5 years would keep the poor from participating in the electoral process.

Your right...the ID fee wouldnt keep anyone from voting....its just the typical liberal BS-mongering.

But I tell you what...I help pay for their mortgage/rent....for their utilities...for their gas.....for their healthcare....their transportation....their food...spending money and their 10 kids.............................why not give them a free ID as well......its on me

BO Nafide · #33 (**permalink**) 04-30-2008, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Badmutha

But I tell you what...I help pay for their mortgage/rent....for their utilities...for their gas.....for their healthcare....their transportation....their food...spending money and their 10 kids.............................why not give them a free ID as well......its on me

You left out the part where they can can use the money they make whoring to buy drugs, lottery tickets and smokes.

Dom1 · #34 (**permalink**) 04-30-2008, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jetblast

You people are disgusting fascists. You're not Americans you're Nazi pigs. You would be more comfortable in Nazi Germany or Burma where this kind of sadistic hatred was the norm.

Truth is the decision was called "The cure for a disease that did not exist." Studies have shown that there is no real voter fraud in Indiana. Republicans were all for it because it excises democrats out of their American right to vote with the usual dirty tricks served as genuine concern (see: WMD).

If you read the replies to this post you can see that most who adhere to the recent neo-con status quo are in complete contempt for American freedoms and the right to vote. These people are unabashed fascist pigs who (how did they put it?) "hate our way of life".

You people are Nazis and should be kicked out of America to some fascist Mussolini police state where you would be more comfortable.

The Supreme Court once again goes the wrong way with the Constitution. They need to be shaken up by the disenfranchised.

How does it prevent Democrats from voting?

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Originally Posted by Jetblast

More republican weaseling and dirty tricks.

I really don't have to post anything if you are exposing your fascist views about which Americans should be allowed to vote and which not? You people are nuts. Are you for bringing back negro slavery as well?

Fact is the Supreme Court just voted for and approved a defacto poll tax. They just made an unofficial declaration of a take-over of our government by non-democratic forces.

It isn't a poll tax. Even when Georgia was going to give away the cards the Democrats claimed it was a poll tax. If requiring ID to vote is discrimatory, then isn't requiring ID to work discrimatory?

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Originally Posted by noneof yourbusiness

The supreme court can choke on a bag of shit. Polticaly appointed judges hold no weight.

Pretty sure the Supreme Court does carry 'weight'.

reccles44 · #35 (**permalink**) 05-01-2008, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BO Nafide

You left out the part where they can can use the money they make whoring to buy drugs, lottery tickets and smokes.

Now first of all, we all know that poor people are not that bad. Don't get me wrong, I am NOT for welfare. At least not in the form that the system is working or has worked since its incception.

I am for helping those who truly need it but not for their whole life. Sort of like unemployment insurance. Welfare should only be for a short period of time to help them get back on their feet. It should promote family unity not rip it apart.

With that said, the big drug problem is not in the poor areas. That is to say, that actually the suburban people go into the poor areas and buy drugs, so in a way the poor provide a service for the more well off.

But to keep anyone who is a citizen from voting because you think they are living off of your tax dollar is rediculous. That would be saying that anyone who lives off your taxes, which would include military, police, fire, public safety, politicians, etc should not vote.

Voting is more than just about taxes. Its about your life. If you are a citizen, pay any kind of tax no matter where you derive your income, then you should be able to vote. Being able to show ID to prove you are who you say you are in order to vote is not asking too much of a citizen. A drivers license or a State issued ID card is all that is needed.

BO Nafide · #36 (**permalink**) 05-01-2008, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by reccles44

Now first of all, we all know that poor people are not that bad. Don't get me wrong, I am NOT for welfare. At least not in the form that the system is working or has worked since its incception.

I am for helping those who truly need it but not for their whole life. Sort of like unemployment insurance. Welfare should only be for a short period of time to help them get back on their feet. It should promote family unity not rip it apart.

With that said, the big drug problem is not in the poor areas. That is to say, that actually the suburban people go into the poor areas and buy drugs, so in a way the poor provide a service for the more well off.

But to keep anyone who is a citizen from voting because you think they are living off of your tax dollar is rediculous. That would be saying that anyone who lives off your taxes, which would include military, police, fire, public safety, politicians, etc should not vote.

Voting is more than just about taxes. Its about your life. If you are a citizen, pay any kind of tax no matter where you derive your income, then you should be able to vote. Being able to show ID to prove you are who you say you are in order to vote is not asking too much of a citizen. A drivers license or a State issued ID card is all that is needed.

OK. military, police, fire, public safety, politicians, etc. Provide a service they work for their money, in the case of politicians not very hard or well, but they work. Or are you saying the poor drug dealers are providing a service in the same sense as military, police, fire, public safety, politicians, etc? If so how many drug dealers are 1099ed?

Welfare folks don't do drugs, they just provide a service to rich junkies. OK I'm sold.

Agent_Grey · #37 (**permalink**) 05-01-2008, 04:13 PM

Allright, on the one hand I actually agree with the Supreme courts ruling... I don't think these laws amount to a poll tax.

On the other hand, why do we need them? We don't do this kind of confirmation with mail-in ballots, so if you want to commit fraud, that's the way to do it, and this law does nothing to prevent it.

That's to say nothing about the fact that there's never been a single case of the kind of fraud this law is designed to prevent.

crowonapost · #38 (**permalink**) 05-01-2008, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BO Nafide

You left out the part where they can can use the money they make whoring to buy drugs, lottery tickets and smokes.

Sorry, were you talking about the CEO kids, Like Paris Hilton?

BO Nafide · #39 (**permalink**) 05-01-2008, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by crowonapost

Sorry, were you talking about the CEO kids, Like Paris Hilton?

I didn't think Paris made money whoring. I thought she gave it away.

reccles44 · #40 (**permalink**) 05-02-2008, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BO Nafide

OK. military, police, fire, public safety, politicians, etc. Provide a service they work for their money, in the case of politicians not very hard or well, but they work. Or are you saying the poor drug dealers are providing a service in the same sense as military, police, fire, public safety, politicians, etc? If so how many drug dealers are 1099ed?

Welfare folks don't do drugs, they just provide a service to rich junkies. OK I'm sold.

LOL. Well if you think like a Liberal, all you would have to do is keep the rich kids from having so much money by taxing the hell out of their parents. That way they would not have the cash to go into welfare bottoms all across the country to buy the drugs which would force those on welfare to get real jobs at McDonalds in order to buy their big screen TV's.