High court approves voter ID!

A. Crowley · #**101** (**permalink**) 05-08-2008, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Jetblast

Dom isn't very bright.

His first mistake is giving those primitive oversimplified answers to my elaborated points. Anyone can see that these people like republicans using dirty tricks and the outcome, so, really, any reason is good enough for them. But I think most smart people can see them avoiding, like the plague, that the trouble and expense of those cards will deter a good segment from bothering.

But I'm satisfied that these neanderthals are publically showing that they are oblivious to the fact that voting is different from buying a 6-pack and involves a whole different set of cherished principles our nation is based on. I can see extensive coverage over the right to vote in our core writs. I see nothing on the right to buy a six-pack. The fact these Fox News black shirts don't see this or comprehend it in their arguments would normally make quick work of not taking them seriously, but in today's age we find darker powers using these beer hall jerks to their devices. Take Fox News for instance.

No boys, you have to do better than that. You have introduced an ugly and frankly dumber form of American understanding that ignores that the Supreme Court always erred on the side of protecting voting rights. Typical of republican corruption, when complaining about "activist judges" they produce judges that make radically unprecedented political decisions for rogue parties rather than upholding the Constitution.

As seen with these jerks, we have an unprecedented generation of Fox News-programmed dumbheads who see the Constitution as a threat and need to think up specious and inapropriate reasons why it should be weakened or dispensed with. I wish we could somehow focus the pursuant negative results just on these people with concentration of effect so they could get a taste of their product.

These people hate freedom.

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Jboss321 · #**102** (**permalink**) 05-08-2008, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jetblast

Dom isn't very bright.

His first mistake is giving those primitive oversimplified answers to my elaborated points. Anyone can see that these people like republicans using dirty tricks and the outcome, so, really, any reason is good enough for them. But I think most smart people can see them avoiding, like the plague, that the trouble and expense of those cards will deter a good segment from bothering.

But I'm satisfied that these neanderthals are publically showing that they are oblivious to the fact that voting is different from buying a 6-pack and involves a whole different set of cherished principles our nation is based on. I can see extensive coverage over the right to vote in our core writs. I see nothing on the right to buy a six-pack. The fact these Fox News black shirts don't see this or comprehend it in their arguments would normally make quick work of not taking them seriously, but in today's age we find darker powers using these beer hall jerks to their devices. Take Fox News for instance.

No boys, you have to do better than that. You have introduced an ugly and frankly dumber form of American understanding that ignores that the Supreme Court always erred on the side of protecting voting rights. Typical of republican corruption, when complaining about "activist judges" they produce judges that make radically unprecedented political decisions for rogue parties rather than upholding the Constitution.

As seen with these jerks, we have an unprecedented generation of Fox News-programmed dumbheads who see the Constitution as a threat and need to think up specious and inapropriate reasons why it should be weakened or dispensed with. I wish we could somehow focus the pursuant negative results just on these people with concentration of effect so they could get a taste of their product.

These people hate freedom.

I'm late to this thread, and read all posts to catch up. Wow!, I don't think I've ever seen such a landslide thread, all the evil dirty tricking Repubs and neocons against poor little ol' jetblast.
Jet, you are the quintessential liberal democrat I love to hate, you keep asking answered questions, hoping for validation, and it came from Crowley in the form of "................................................. ..." (keep up the good work Allister).
Maybe the voting machines should be kept out of certain neighborhoods, if the dnc drags out the only people who are dumb enough to vote for them, but are too stupid to actually operate the 'machine', what's the point?

It should be this simple

1. Are you a legal citizen of this Country in which you wish to vote?
2. Can you produce tangible identification to prove it?
3. Are you able to operate a pencil, punch, or button?

If the answer is yes to all ?'s, please feel free to cast your vote.
If the answer is no to even one ?, thanks for your time, but you don't qualify.

Reynard1967 · #**103** (**permalink**) 05-08-2008, 02:00 AM

Sorry don't agree that it is that simple. It SHOULD be. We have druded up, drunken, uninformed, non-caring, overly-cruel, uneducated, agenda minded, mob mentality poo-poo heads voting.

A hundred years ago...sure. Now you are allowing the same people who you don't think should be allowed to keep there kids make a decision that in effect, has some degree of effect world wide. Hey if these asses can make decisions for one person....why hand them the keys to the world?

Jboss321 · #**104** (**permalink**) 05-08-2008, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Reynard1967

Sorry don't agree that it is that simple. It SHOULD be. We have druded up, drunken, uninformed, non-caring, overly-cruel, uneducated, agenda minded, mob mentality poo-poo heads voting.

That was indeed my point, Reynard

A hundred years ago...sure. Now you are allowing the same people who you don't think should be allowed to keep there kids make a decision that in effect, has some degree of effect world wide. Hey if these asses can make decisions for one person....why hand them the keys to the world?

When you say 'you', I hope your meaning them.

Reynard1967 · #**105** (**permalink**) 05-08-2008, 04:45 AM

General statement..no one person.

r8dmarshall · #**106** (**permalink**) 05-08-2008, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BO Nafide

Maybe it could be possible to register and vote in elections on line. pre-registration of course. social security numbers, security questions, paswords and secure site, that kind of thing. Then we don't have to worry about the wal-mart greeters or pollsters at the poll sites.

That is real funny, shows the lack of thought. If one can;t afford to get a photo id, how are they going to buy a computer to vote on line with.

I think the whole issue is stupid Any one who can;t, or won;t get a photo id does not need to vote.

to allow anyone to vote without a photo id is dumb from at least three points. No fraudlient vote from dead people, terrorists, or those voting more than once in different locations.

Absentee ballits are the easiest ones to cheat with. An example, My son and daughter voted in person from a different state in the 2000 election. I recceived a request form from the party of which they did not belong for an absentee ballit. If I had returned that form they could have used it with the info they requested to put in a fraudlent vote.

Dom1 · #**107** (**permalink**) 05-08-2008, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Jetblast

His first mistake is giving those primitive oversimplified answers to my elaborated points. Anyone can see that these people like republicans using dirty tricks and the outcome, so, really, any reason is good enough for them. But I think most smart people can see them avoiding, like the plague, that the trouble and expense of those cards will deter a good segment from bothering.

What elaborated points? You keep saying it is unconstitutional over and over but give NO examples of how it is unconstitutional - just like the challengers to the act itself - which is why they lost.

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Originally Posted by Jetblast

But I'm satisfied that these neanderthals are publically showing that they are oblivious to the fact that voting is different from buying a 6-pack and involves a whole different set of cherished principles our nation is based on. I can see extensive coverage over the right to vote in our core writs. I see nothing on the right to buy a six-pack. The fact these Fox News black shirts don't see this or comprehend it in their arguments would normally make quick work of not taking them seriously, but in today's age we find darker powers using these beer hall jerks to their devices. Take Fox News for instance.

Sure, voting is different.

But if ID cards are discrimatory in voting they are also discrimatory in working, travelling, buying a gun (a constitutional right as well), collecting their welfare checks, etc.

So, are ID cards discrimatory or not? You still have FAILED to answer a simple question.

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Originally Posted by Jetblast

No boys, you have to do better than that. You have introduced an ugly and frankly dumber form of American understanding that ignores that the Supreme Court always erred on the side of protecting voting rights. Typical of republican corruption, when complaining about "activist judges" they produce judges that make radically unprecedented political decisions for rogue parties rather than upholding the Constitution.

Still nothing to state how the ID act is unconsitutional.

Please ramble on more about how the poor not having cars (and I think you will be surprised to know that they do!) makes this unfair. In that case, then making them drive to the polls would be unconsitutional - because according to you it would be a poll tax.

Are ID cards unconsitutional?

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Originally Posted by Jetblast

As seen with these jerks, we have an unprecedented generation of Fox News-programmed dumbheads who see the Constitution as a threat and need to think up specious and inapropriate reasons why it should be weakened or dispensed with. I wish we could somehow focus the pursuant negative results just on these people with concentration of effect so they could get a taste of their product.

These people hate freedom.

Do ID cards violate a freedom to work? What about to travel? What about the constituionally protected right to buy a gun? What about the ability to collect their welfare checks?

Again, are ID cards discrimatory or not? Why can't you answer a simple question?