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Originally Posted by Jetblast
Dumb answer. As usual, neo-con fascists have no inhibitions on showing how they are in contempt of the Constitution and its purpose and are always trying to deny or minimize it. My point was clear and already answered to any honest intelligent person not seeking to deny the obvious. Indiana was assisted by a classic Bush-corrupted government. I recommend you change the "o" in your handle to "u".
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As usual anyone who disagrees with you gets referred to as a neocon fascist. Fucking idiot.
Like you, the challengers FAILED to show how voter ID's are unconstitutional. You merely saying it is doesn't suffice. You cannot logically make the claim that ID cards are discrimatory.
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Originally Posted by Jetblast
It was already explained. The fringe poor this measure was aimed at don't have cars to drive to the county seat to apply for their ID. They also can't afford the fees or the 4 dollar gas to get there. The republicans wouldn't be all for this unless they knew this was the case. It is a designed tactical move to prevent votes. That's how it excludes people from voting. Dirty tricks cons try to pose those who stand up against their gerrymandering as being antisocial or unreasonable when the real reason is to conceal sleazy tactics to deny voting rights.
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It actually wasn't explained. I asked why you thought the ID cards were discrimatory and you failed to answer.
The fact is that people need ID cards to collect government checks AND to work, in most cases, so if requiring ID's are discrimatory in the case of voting then it is also discrimatory in every thing else that requires an ID.
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Originally Posted by Jetblast
Discussing ID's in general is just the typical tactic dirty cons try to suck you in to in order to draw the discussion away from the obvious. These people are expert dirty trick pros and thoroughly practiced at the art of deception.
Or course "Dom" could never specifically show where democrats benefited from planned voter fraud (neither could Indiana). Meanwhile these goons don't show the same level of scrutiny for a military industrial complex thriving off a criminal WMD war in Iraq.
Again, the previous gravity in America was towards no forced state ID or forced papers to be shown to authorities etc. DOM pretends that the opposite is the case and the moral gravity is towards full compliance with all state strictures and processing of citizens. That's dumb and speaks for itself. The Italians were fascists during WWII and on the same side as Hitler. Funny how Hitler also approved of full state control of identification.
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France already has something like this, so are you calling them fascists?
Discussing ID's is valid because it is YOU who are claiming they are discrimatory.
What is it is this, you don't care about the poor and it is just a facade. YOu are marching in step to what the DNC is telling you. IF you did care about the poor and IF you did think that ID's were discrimatory then you would think that requiring ID's to work, travel, collect welfare, drive, buy a gun (which is a consitutional right which YOU say is being discriminated against if you do indeed think that ID's rae discrimatory) are discrimatory practices.
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Originally Posted by Jetblast
The reason democrats were against voter ID's in Georgia is because the previous system was working fine and fighting for American freedom involves not allowing to state to work in excuses for ear-tagging citizens with the intention of taking more control and weakening previous Constitutional protections. You're dumb and ignorant of the meaning of the Constitution if you need that explained to you.
Perhaps you would be more happy in some foreign police state where they've dispensed with all those "weak" Constitutional arguments you are so in contempt of? Our resident neo-con quacks are showing a full and outward hate of our Constitution and seek excuses around it every time. Though they claim to be better Americans their actions clearly show otherwise.
Look up: "Freedom"
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The reason Dems were against it in Georgia is because the DNC told them to be. The fact is that the ID's were going to be GIVEN AWAY FOR FREE and they still claimed it was a poll tax.
As far as the Constitution goes, it is you who is ignorant. So ignorant that you, like the challengers to this act, can't come up with how it is unconsititutional. You just keep saying it is without giving ANY constitutional reasoning.
So, are ID cards discrimatory or not? Easy question. Yes or no.
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