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05-12-2008, 11:08 AM
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Why not be .....HONEST..... you put ME and others of superior wit and intellect on ignore because we whip your lame arse ..... like a rented mule....... "village idiot la femme".......
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05-12-2008, 11:15 AM
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I think both sides have lost touch with the Constitution. Scalia did make a good point about what he tries to do. It is not his feelings that count. It is what he believes the Constitution says and means that counts. So he may feel like throwing those who burn the flag in prison but the Constitution says he can't. Good point. There may be things you and I would like to see the government do but the Constitution says it can't.
As for prisioners of war...they do not get Constitutional protections. There is two reasons for this. One, they are prisoners. Two 99% of them are not US Citizens so the Constitution does not pertain to them in areas which are not civil or criminal. They are not criminals. They are soldiers in a war. And we know that when we release them, many of them return to the battle lines and kill US Service men and women or they blow themselves up in the middle of a town market and kill many many civilians.
Prisoners of war only get released when the war is over. And since this is a war that will not be over any time soon, I guess the prisoners should be prepared to die in prison. At least there, they are getting 3 good meals a day and they will have the chance to live to a ripe old age. Release them and they will go back to barely eating anything but dirt and blowing themselves up. I think we are being humanitarian by keeping them locked up.
Think about it.
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05-12-2008, 11:19 AM
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You rotten son of a bitch.
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Great opening line...LOL... it's often used by the ignorant who can't debate the facts put forth...like you can't. LOL
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Do you think Iraqi civilians being woefully violated by the same troops that are supposed to be saving them from Saddam's oppression is merely a "political point"?
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LOL... woefully violated?...LOL not as violated as your left-wing bullshit spreading!
And I suppose you believe that Iraqi's want old Saddam back!
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How dare you you ruthless scheme-ing scumbag.
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LOL... more good debate pros eh? LOL
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Americans, like Blackwater mowing down civilians, have gotten away with war-crime atrocities in Iraq.
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LOL... yeah right... prove it! But of course you can't, just like all the other retarded bullshit you post, if you don't agree with it, there is a blame-America -first idiotic conspiracy to explain why things don't go the way you want. Grow up wimp. Try as you might, we will fight every step you take to turn America in to the Socialist shit pile you'd like it to be. 
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Almost every case of abuse is dismissed by some military court that are allowed to judge their own actions.
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LOL... yeah, yeah, Yeah.... just as I thought.
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It's patriotism spouting fascist scumbags like you that make this all possible, while having the balls to question our patriotism when you yourself obviously don't understand what American patriotism is.
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Thank you, by that you must mean those of us who believe in the constitution and concepts of innocence until proven guilty as oppose to you arrogant tards ..like Murtha... who seek to blame first and then are too cowardly to admit they were wrong. I'm proud to NOT be a socialist-American patriot like you--fool.
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Any moron can be faithful to a flag. The US flag was supposed to be worth only what the US put behind it in terms of faith to its own principles.
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And so those of you who are guilty of not putting "worth" behind the flag burn it.... and to you that is patriotism! LOL....
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Like I said before, you need to become an Iraqi and go over there with your phony beliefs and get a first hand taste of your form of patriotism. The US has slandered itself - it doesn't need anyone else to do it.
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Practice what you preach fool. The only slander here is what comes out of your mouths.... good thing you do not speak for Americans...the real ones that is! LOL
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05-12-2008, 11:25 AM
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Why not be .....HONEST..... you put ME and others of superior wit and intellect on ignore because we whip your lame arse ..... like a rented mule....... "village idiot la femme".......
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Yep! They circle the wagons around other dolts..or grab for their baby blankets for security... 
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05-12-2008, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by reccles44
I think both sides have lost touch with the Constitution. Scalia did make a good point about what he tries to do. It is not his feelings that count. It is what he believes the Constitution says and means that counts. So he may feel like throwing those who burn the flag in prison but the Constitution says he can't. Good point. There may be things you and I would like to see the government do but the Constitution says it can't.
As for prisioners of war...they do not get Constitutional protections. There is two reasons for this. One, they are prisoners. Two 99% of them are not US Citizens so the Constitution does not pertain to them in areas which are not civil or criminal. They are not criminals. They are soldiers in a war. And we know that when we release them, many of them return to the battle lines and kill US Service men and women or they blow themselves up in the middle of a town market and kill many many civilians.
Prisoners of war only get released when the war is over. And since this is a war that will not be over any time soon, I guess the prisoners should be prepared to die in prison. At least there, they are getting 3 good meals a day and they will have the chance to live to a ripe old age. Release them and they will go back to barely eating anything but dirt and blowing themselves up. I think we are being humanitarian by keeping them locked up.
Think about it.
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Exactly!
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05-12-2008, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by reccles44
I think both sides have lost touch with the Constitution. Scalia did make a good point about what he tries to do. It is not his feelings that count. It is what he believes the Constitution says and means that counts. So he may feel like throwing those who burn the flag in prison but the Constitution says he can't. Good point. There may be things you and I would like to see the government do but the Constitution says it can't.
As for prisioners of war...they do not get Constitutional protections. There is two reasons for this. One, they are prisoners. Two 99% of them are not US Citizens so the Constitution does not pertain to them in areas which are not civil or criminal. They are not criminals. They are soldiers in a war. And we know that when we release them, many of them return to the battle lines and kill US Service men and women or they blow themselves up in the middle of a town market and kill many many civilians.
Prisoners of war only get released when the war is over. And since this is a war that will not be over any time soon, I guess the prisoners should be prepared to die in prison. At least there, they are getting 3 good meals a day and they will have the chance to live to a ripe old age. Release them and they will go back to barely eating anything but dirt and blowing themselves up. I think we are being humanitarian by keeping them locked up.
Think about it.
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You are all over the board on this...sheesh !
May I suggest you re read the 14th amendment..and what it says about "within the Jurisdiction of the united states"
I assume you will be able to read it. Scalia apparently cant..or chooses not to get it
Bottom line....
Scalia is worse then a dogmatic ideologue, he is a pre programmed dogmatic ideologue.
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05-12-2008, 11:47 AM
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Little "boy" huh ?
Reading comprehnesion is not your stong suit huh Gomer pile ?
This poor sod is too easy...LOL
Villiage idots and laughing stocks like yourself often thinK those who laqugh at, mock, and publicly humiliate them are "angry"
Psssssssst...when people are mocking and laughing at you the way Crowly and I have been,.,,,they are LTAO, at your expense... not angry
Just a tip for ya loser boy
So Limp wrist...
GoArmy.com
When are you going to enlist ?
You were washed out of the military the first time around, buit they have lowered their standards now..even YOU can get in
You have never made it in the real world, and you're family clearly never thought you were good enough, this should impress them !
Maybe you dad will even stop telling people his son is a boycunt, nd admit he is your father when people ask
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You show your rage in everything you type Little Boy  Absolutely everything. I already served Smart...something you will never do....you simply don't have the guts to do it.
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05-12-2008, 12:47 PM
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You show your rage in everything you type Little Boy Absolutely everything. I already served Smart...something you will never do....you simply don't have the guts to do it. |
So is this some exercize in free association your shrink suggested ?
LMAO
We have already observed your psycho projection, Mean world syndrome symptoms, and obvious obsession with me.
How long do you plan on putting on this puppet show and making us laugh at you ?
I put your strings down, you can stop dancing now puppet boy. Your obsession is pathetic
Rather then losing sleep, chomping at the bit and obsessing over the fact you have been exposed, owned and humiliated:
GoArmy.com
Prove to your dad you are not a snivling pussy after all !
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05-12-2008, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by reccles44
I think both sides have lost touch with the Constitution. Scalia did make a good point about what he tries to do. It is not his feelings that count. It is what he believes the Constitution says and means that counts. So he may feel like throwing those who burn the flag in prison but the Constitution says he can't. Good point. There may be things you and I would like to see the government do but the Constitution says it can't.
As for prisioners of war...they do not get Constitutional protections. There is two reasons for this. One, they are prisoners. Two 99% of them are not US Citizens so the Constitution does not pertain to them in areas which are not civil or criminal. They are not criminals. They are soldiers in a war. And we know that when we release them, many of them return to the battle lines and kill US Service men and women or they blow themselves up in the middle of a town market and kill many many civilians.
Prisoners of war only get released when the war is over. And since this is a war that will not be over any time soon, I guess the prisoners should be prepared to die in prison. At least there, they are getting 3 good meals a day and they will have the chance to live to a ripe old age. Release them and they will go back to barely eating anything but dirt and blowing themselves up. I think we are being humanitarian by keeping them locked up.
Think about it.
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What is clear is you have never had 10 minutes of legal or logic training and your thoughts are as valuable as the stain on my underwear.
Why don't you toss around a few, "Why it's jus plain commen sinse, that we is do'in the right thang. Now lets go fuck a pig."
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05-12-2008, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by smart makes a comeback
You are all over the board on this...sheesh !
May I suggest you re read the 14th amendment..and what it says about "within the Jurisdiction of the united states"
I assume you will be able to read it. Scalia apparently cant..or chooses not to get it
Bottom line....
Scalia is worse then a dogmatic ideologue, he is a pre programmed dogmatic ideologue.
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You might actually try reading the words of the 14th Amendment yourself without applying your own misinterpretation. There is nothing in the 14th amendment to cover enemy combatants or prisoners taken from the battlefield.
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"If God had wanted us to vote, he would have given us candidates. " Jay Leno
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