Argue With Everyone Political Forums  

Go Back   Argue With Everyone Political Forums > News and Current Events > Politics in the News

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #51 (permalink)  
Old 05-03-2008, 03:18 PM
rob's Avatar
rob rob is offline
Machiavelli Incarnate
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: SW Oklahoma
Posts: 15,966
Blog Entries: 1
Send a message via MSN to rob
Default

Put the Blame Where it Belongs
By Michael Reagan
Thursday, May 1, 2008


In case you haven't noticed, gas prices are soaring, hiking the cost of food and just about everything else. If you believe Hillary Clinton, the blame for all this lies on the shoulders of those greedy oil companies and their bloated profit margins, a notion that like just about every other snake-oil remedy she tries to peddle is simply not the case.
We're in the mess in which we find ourselves because of a small handful of people with the money and the power to inflict grievous harm on their fellow humans, whom they just happen to despise.
It's about time for you and your fellow Americans to know just who they are and what they are doing to all of us in the name of saving the planet that for millions of years has shown to be perfectly capable of saving itself without their help.
If you are really sick and tired of $4.00 gasoline, really sick of being dependent on foreign oil, and equally as sick of seeing your food bills go up, the conventional wisdom would lead you to blame the likes of Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. But that's a waste of time, as is blaming George Bush or the oil companies.
None of them make environmental policy. That policy is set by three individuals two who are located in New York City. If you want to drill in Alaska or the Gulf of Mexico or in the continental U.S. -- where billions of gallons of petroleum are just waiting to be tapped -- or build refineries, these three people stand in your way.
They are John Flicker of the National Audubon Society, Frances Beinecke of the Natural Resources Defense Council, and Trip Van Noppen of the organization Earthjustice.
Flicker and Beinecke both live and work in New York City where they probably don't own cars, and they are happy that you have to spend more and more of your budget on food and fuel. You are being punished for being Americans.
Van Noppen runs Earthjustice from Oakland, California. None of these three is in touch with America. They hate America, they hate you. And they want your gas to cost $8.00 a gallon.
Earlier this year they filed a lawsuit to prevent drilling for oil and natural gas in Alaska. This is just a leading tactic in their arsenal. All of you need to call these three and demand that they get out of the way and stop impeding our rights to find and drill for petroleum here in North America. After all, if the Chinese are drilling for oil in the Gulf of Mexico, shouldn't we be allowed to do so too?
They must be made to feel pressure -- the pressure you feel every day when you juggle your budget to cope with rising prices. These three people set energy policy in this country. They order Reid and Pelosi to do their bidding, and thanks to them and their allies in the radical environmental movement we are getting economically weaker.
Call John Flicker at the Audubon Society at (212) 979-3000.
Call Frances Beinecke at the NRDC at (212) 727-2700.
Call Trip Van Noppen at Earthjustice at (510) 550-6700.
One more thing. I wrote earlier that the environmental extremists hate humanity, they think there are too many of us, and they won't be happy until an awful lot of us are gone.
Most won't say it, but here's what two of them are quoted as saying in Johah Goldberg's book "Liberal Fascism." "When Charles Wurster, chief scientist for the Environmental Defense Fund was told that banning DDT would probably result in millions of deaths he replied 'This is as good a way to get rid of them as any." And a million did die.
Finnish environmental guru Pentti Linkola "argues that the earth is a sinking ship, and a chosen remnant must head for the lifeboats. Said Linkola, 'Those who hate life try to pull more people on board and drown everybody. Those who love and respect life use axes to chops off extra hands hanging on the gunwale.'"
Beware of environmentalists bearing axes.

Michael Reagan, the eldest son of Ronald Reagan, is heard daily by over 5 million listeners via his nationally syndicated talk radio program, “The Michael Reagan Show.”
__________________
An informed voter scares the Goverment lackeys.

An American first and always a Conservative.
Reply With Quote
  #52 (permalink)  
Old 05-03-2008, 03:24 PM
Political Mastermind
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Nc
Posts: 2,376
Send a message via AIM to kgpoolerev
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Teak View Post
Keep dreaming there Alice. Toto is right beside you, but where is the tin man?
I'm feeling you. You think that by destroying tourism we will save the planet from the evil CO2.
__________________
You don't have to be crazy to be a liberal, but it helps.

"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." JFK

Ask not was you can for your country, ask what your country can do for you. Obama Platform
Reply With Quote
  #53 (permalink)  
Old 05-03-2008, 03:35 PM
Political Guru
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 641
Default

I would rather see limits on vehicle size and consumption than risk economic and ecologic disaster in Florida. I see morons driving around 4x4 F250's everywhere here in Florida. The bigger the vehicle is like a redneck status symbol. I heard someone say that they are actually filling tankers with oil from America and shipping it overseas because they will pay more. Also I've watched GAO say on CSPAN that American refineries are most efficient with heavier oil. Yet we fill the strategic reserve with more expensive light oil. There are a dozen simpler, more ecologically friendly and better things to do than just drill more oil!!!
Reply With Quote
  #54 (permalink)  
Old 05-03-2008, 03:47 PM
Teak's Avatar
Machiavelli Incarnate
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Malibu, CA
Posts: 3,648
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kgpoolerev View Post
I'm feeling you. You think that by destroying tourism we will save the planet from the evil CO2.
Studly, unless you want to live and work in the same building, and rely on public transportation for shopping and vacations you best start trying to come up with a viable replacement for gasoline. I've watched gas prices since the 1950's, they don't go down, just up. That is not going to change.

I doubt you will ever see sub $3 gas in this country again. Another couple of years and it will be $4.50 to $5 minimum.
__________________
If you want change stop electing "liberal: democrats and "radical" Republicans. Find and support true Conservatives; those who believe in fiscal responsibilities, individual accountability, and a smaller government, with less control of your daily life.
Reply With Quote
  #55 (permalink)  
Old 05-03-2008, 06:29 PM
Political Mastermind
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Nc
Posts: 2,376
Send a message via AIM to kgpoolerev
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Teak View Post
Studly, unless you want to live and work in the same building, and rely on public transportation for shopping and vacations you best start trying to come up with a viable replacement for gasoline. I've watched gas prices since the 1950's, they don't go down, just up. That is not going to change.

I doubt you will ever see sub $3 gas in this country again. Another couple of years and it will be $4.50 to $5 minimum.
If Clinton or Obama get into the Whitehouse next year will see the $4.50 to $5.00.

I have only be paying attention to gasoline prices since I started driving in the mid 80s. I have seen the gasoline prices spike up and then come back down a bit when OPEC increased production. We will never see $1.50 gasoline again. By developing our own sources we can increase the supply in order to lower the cost. What we need is a leader to stand up and say that we are going to develope our own oil and work toward alternative fuels. Not by taxing oil companies making only 10% on their investment, but by tax cuts to companies, any companies willing to tackle the alternative fuels without using corn which drives up food costs.
__________________
You don't have to be crazy to be a liberal, but it helps.

"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." JFK

Ask not was you can for your country, ask what your country can do for you. Obama Platform
Reply With Quote
  #56 (permalink)  
Old 05-04-2008, 09:09 AM
Political Guru
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 641
Default

10%...yeah right....XOM first quarter profit....11B...Did they invest 110B in that qtr?...They made 92B all of last year right? Even when people where being hurt by high costs they had record years. I suspect that things were much better for them then they put down on "the record".

SEC leaves plenty of room for slight of hand in corporate finances, IMO. They can tell you 10% when in reality it may have been 110%.
Reply With Quote
  #57 (permalink)  
Old 05-04-2008, 09:32 AM
wow's Avatar
wow wow is offline
Machiavelli Incarnate
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: The Republic of Texas
Posts: 6,878
Default

Can you name the largest Corporation in America that makes about $ 7 Billion per day and does NOT pay taxes?














Answer: The United States Govt.
__________________
Bush-lite fooled the American people
Reply With Quote
  #58 (permalink)  
Old 05-04-2008, 11:12 AM
Political Mastermind
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Nc
Posts: 2,376
Send a message via AIM to kgpoolerev
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by seeker View Post
10%...yeah right....XOM first quarter profit....11B...Did they invest 110B in that qtr?...They made 92B all of last year right? Even when people where being hurt by high costs they had record years. I suspect that things were much better for them then they put down on "the record".

SEC leaves plenty of room for slight of hand in corporate finances, IMO. They can tell you 10% when in reality it may have been 110%.
So your claim is that Exxon made 110% profit?
__________________
You don't have to be crazy to be a liberal, but it helps.

"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." JFK

Ask not was you can for your country, ask what your country can do for you. Obama Platform
Reply With Quote
  #59 (permalink)  
Old 05-04-2008, 11:31 AM
Political Junkie
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 443
Default Folks please

This entire oil situation is very easy to understand so don't use a microscope on it.


- Supply and demand dictates the prices on almost everything and that includes oil. There are WAY too many countries as well as private companies in comeptition with each other that there is no monopoly or price fixing unless we allow it to happen.

Every oil company in America wants to drill our own oil. They want to drill badly and they want approval to uncap many of the wells that are already drilled. Who's stopping them? It's not Saudi's, Iran, Iraq or even OPEC. it's our own country!

Put the real blame where it belongs and open up our own oil fields for production if you want cheaper fuel... Everyday I drive by many oil wells and less than 1/2 are working because there are limits placed on how much oil can be pumped out.
Reply With Quote
  #60 (permalink)  
Old 05-04-2008, 05:02 PM
Political Guru
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 989
Default

rob's views make sense if you are person with no sense of the need to preserve the environment or how destroying every last natural place looking for oil will cost us much more than any short term gains.

rob is unfortunately a good example of the brainless immoral crude sector of Americans brainwashed by energy corporations to spew their right wing propaganda. What gets to me the most about these creatures is their blindness to the fact that persons like him having their way is the exact reason why we are in this situation in the first place. These power-abusing organizations posing as beneficent "compassionate" corporations are people who twist the arms of the poor and then put a grossly oversimplified and totally one-sided self-serving polemic in front of them as the way out. Dutifully these people then do their bidding and scapegoat those who are the worst victims of their doings as the withholders of some paranoid corporate utopia looming just within reach but being held back by malevolent environmentalists out to destory their vital life juices for the sake of ill nature. It's so stupid it's tragic, but the truth is our country is now under the influence and control of these intellectually/morally limited miscreants. When the country is suffering from an excess of what they profess their answer is always more of the same. Truth is they are cheap and aggressive whores for their energy pimps knowing they'll be taken care of when they force their way. These people don't have any guilt for the state of our present environment or their previous contribution to that. They start at the same point every time and are only interested in their wallets and the next quarter's earning reports. We need to set laws that make their arguments unsubmittable until they show a human level of recognition for the environment. Otherwise they'll kill us all.

It's obvious to me that those chanting to drill everywhere in America are just chanting something they heard on Fox and really don't understand what they are talking about. rob is a little more poisonous because he just doesn't care.

Last edited by Jetblast; 05-04-2008 at 05:04 PM.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump


» Navigation

Political Links Page

Blogs by AWE Members

Advertisers support this site - if you're interested in their product, take a look!


$5 monthly donation:

$10 monthly donation:



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:32 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0