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05-09-2008, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Jetblast
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Any comment on your being completely wrong about gas prices under Bush?
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Look at gas prices since 2006, clearly Democrats in Congress are to blame.
Or you can go back to Clinton, who stopped new drilling. Those wells would now be pumping oil. That would have kept prices down by being adding to the supply.
For the libs, suppy would be higher so prices would be lower.
Now Obama and Clinton are lying about big oil to try to paint a picture of doom and gloom. Obama in particular ran numerous ads in Nc lying about big oil. As Obama said in an ad slamming Hillary about her honesty, 'we need a president we can trust'. That is not Obama. That is not Hillary. Their plan will add to the price of gasoline and we, the people, do not need that.
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05-09-2008, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by kgpoolerev
Look at gas prices since 2006, clearly Democrats in Congress are to blame.
Or you can go back to Clinton, who stopped new drilling. Those wells would now be pumping oil. That would have kept prices down by being adding to the supply.
For the libs, suppy would be higher so prices would be lower.
Now Obama and Clinton are lying about big oil to try to paint a picture of doom and gloom. Obama in particular ran numerous ads in Nc lying about big oil. As Obama said in an ad slamming Hillary about her honesty, 'we need a president we can trust'. That is not Obama. That is not Hillary. Their plan will add to the price of gasoline and we, the people, do not need that.
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I think the Liberal plan has already caused much higher prices for energy and food. They block power generation and energy exploration at every turn. Hell, we can't even seem to get renewable energy plants built. Solar farm in AZ, AXED! Wind farm in MA, AXED! Lots of other examples. Why is this?
Because Liberals are more interested in protecting birds and insects over helping our nation. Then when we get into what they would call a crisis (which they caused) then they blame the Republicans.
By the way, Republicans can share some of the blame because they let Democrats and Liberals brow beat them into submission for their stupid policies. Um, ethanol anyone? When will this end? When a mall bag of corn chips hits $5 bucks a bag?
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05-09-2008, 11:46 AM
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Interesting how people will quote an obvious lie and not even challange it because it conforms to their partisan bs.
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05-09-2008, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Jetblast
Commissioner:
Any comment on your being completely wrong about gas prices under Bush?
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Not sure where your chart came from, average price of gas was $2.19/gallon nationally at the pump in the fall of 2006. Not sure what it is today.
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05-09-2008, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by areyoushittin'me?
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Actually AYSM, your own chart shows gas around $2.13/gallon in July of '06. Actually, that doesn't sounds a bit low, so I'm kind of questioning the chart.
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05-09-2008, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by areyoushittin'me?
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AYSM, your own chart shows gas around $2.13/gallon in July of '06. Actually, that sounds a bit low, so I'm kind of questioning the chart.
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05-09-2008, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Commissioner
Not sure where your chart came from, average price of gas was $2.19/gallon nationally at the pump in the fall of 2006. Not sure what it is today.
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Here's where the chart came from...interesting that the gas prices came down during the campaign season and then promptly started climbing back up shortly thereafter.
http://www.gasbuddy.com/images/logos/gasbuddy_logo.gif
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05-09-2008, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Commissioner
AYSM, your own chart shows gas around $2.13/gallon in July of '06. Actually, that sounds a bit low, so I'm kind of questioning the chart.
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You're quibbling over 6 cents?
Perhaps if you provide the documentation to support your claim we can come to terms.
Either way, it appears you were wrong unless you can totally discredit the source I found.
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05-09-2008, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by areyoushittin'me?
You're quibbling over 6 cents?
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I guess much like with global warming, that 3% is vastly more important than the 97% percent......
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05-09-2008, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by areyoushittin'me?
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I found where the chart came from, and I don't have any problem with the source.
Still, not sure what your point is. As soon as the democrats took over the prices started going up. Again according to your own chart gas was around $2.20/gallon when Democrats took over Congress. It would appear that the increase since then has been around 85-90%.
Being honest, though, it ain't all the democrats fault. There's plenty of blame to go around. But this thread was about Bush and the oil companies, and there's no proof of any kind of conspiracy. In reality it's just as easy to link the price increases to the democrats taking over Congress as some diabolical conspiracy. In the end, the increase in oil prices has more to do with the value of the dollar as it does anything. Demand in China and India ain't helping much either.
Interestingly, adjusted for inflation, believe it or not there have been numerous times in the past where the pump price was much higher than it is today.
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